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Location: Scandinavia-home of the midnight sun.
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I know this is a rumour forum, but for all of you, who is armchair quarterbacking this (and other) event wrt pitch angles, crew handling etc. You were not there, and you have no idea what kind of winds/ turbulence/ downsweeps etc were encountered by those at the pointy end.
For those of you actually operating into FNC, you know how challenging it can be, and how conditions can change in an instant.
As for this incident, the crew encountered a strong downburst close to touchdown and initiated a balked landing. Correctly executed as well, in my opinion, with TOGA and correct pitch (less than 10 ANU). Aircraft touched down with 2.4G, encountered a minor engine stall (as explained above), and diverted to LPA. Aircraft thoroughly checked, no damage, and is now back in revenue service. All in all, a solid performance by the crew. End of story.
For those of you actually operating into FNC, you know how challenging it can be, and how conditions can change in an instant.
As for this incident, the crew encountered a strong downburst close to touchdown and initiated a balked landing. Correctly executed as well, in my opinion, with TOGA and correct pitch (less than 10 ANU). Aircraft touched down with 2.4G, encountered a minor engine stall (as explained above), and diverted to LPA. Aircraft thoroughly checked, no damage, and is now back in revenue service. All in all, a solid performance by the crew. End of story.
Join Date: Mar 2023
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Nobody wanted to criticize the crew. It’s just informal “debriefing” and somebody could learn from this. The crew did a good job. Flight finished safely.
The lesson here is - expect downdrafts. Especially rwy 23. Sometimes 05 as well. Do not correct (pitch down) at low height on final as your correction plus possible downdraft may result in hard landing. If too high and windy - go around.
i would always suggest F3 and Vls plus 10. That’s what I do and teach. That runway is long enough even for heavy 321 close to MLW. Extra speed will give you better handling to fight turbulence. Pitch up on flare is much smaller on that speed so be careful no to “overflare” but in case of downdraft you have more capabilities to arrest sink rate.
Stay safe.
The lesson here is - expect downdrafts. Especially rwy 23. Sometimes 05 as well. Do not correct (pitch down) at low height on final as your correction plus possible downdraft may result in hard landing. If too high and windy - go around.
i would always suggest F3 and Vls plus 10. That’s what I do and teach. That runway is long enough even for heavy 321 close to MLW. Extra speed will give you better handling to fight turbulence. Pitch up on flare is much smaller on that speed so be careful no to “overflare” but in case of downdraft you have more capabilities to arrest sink rate.
Stay safe.
