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Old 8th Mar 2024, 20:24
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
That covers a lot of territory. For ballpark numbers from US carriers, see this website. They may or may not be up to the minute but it'll give you an idea:

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy
Thanks, but I was just curious about the legacy carriers in Europe. I work for AA, and am curious about the pay difference, top scale CA narrow body and wide body (BA, AF & LH).
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Old 8th Mar 2024, 21:57
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Originally Posted by Squawk7777
Thanks, but I was just curious about the legacy carriers in Europe. I work for AA, and am curious about the pay difference, top scale CA narrow body and wide body (BA, AF & LH).
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Ah so...didn't understand.
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Old 9th Mar 2024, 15:26
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In summary then :
I must divorce my old boiler , marry Daisy Duke to get a geeen card , do 1000 hrs RHS in a 737 and, hey presto , everything’s sorted .

I think I might stay in the un - United Kingdom .
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Old 9th Mar 2024, 22:59
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Originally Posted by Squawk7777
Thanks, but I was just curious about the legacy carriers in Europe. I work for AA, and am curious about the pay difference, top scale CA narrow body and wide body (BA, AF & LH).
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Squawk,

That’s not easy to answer as foreign carriers don’t necessarily do pay, the way it’s done in the US. You have to look at how much you have after you’ve paid your taxes and what you can actually buy with what’s left.

I have friends in the left seat at a variety of carriers around the world and let’s put it this way, they’d like to get paid what we’re getting paid right now. But they wouldn’t necessarily want to live in the US.

Pay isn’t everything.
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And it's a flash in the pan to boot. As we all know, this industry runs in roughly 6-8 year cycles. It won't be long before a wave of redundancies and misery hits the US again. 2-3 years? US aviation seems to be more volatile than most, so be very careful what you wish for...
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Prob30; No. You forgot to get the FAA Lic after securing right to live and work. Don't worry though, that bit is easier than GCSE in Theatre Lighting.
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Old 10th Mar 2024, 10:53
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Squawk,

That’s not easy to answer as foreign carriers don’t necessarily do pay, the way it’s done in the US. You have to look at how much you have after you’ve paid your taxes and what you can actually buy with what’s left.

I have friends in the left seat at a variety of carriers around the world and let’s put it this way, they’d like to get paid what we’re getting paid right now. But they wouldn’t necessarily want to live in the US.

Pay isn’t everything.

Absolutely, I work for a company with US and EU employees and the US guys get roughly double what we do but I'm in no way attrached to living and working over there. I've seen a reasonable amount of the US, it's fine but there are so many other places I'd rather live first, a lot of that has to do with me and my own needs and ethics which are so comepletely not aligned with the culture.
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Old 20th Mar 2024, 22:29
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dixi,

Didn't know about the United London F/A base. The pilots could very well have been Brits but I find no mention of a London pilot base:

Domicile & Relocation

Upon completion of training, graduates are assigned to one of the United domiciles - Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, Honolulu, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Newark, San Francisco, Washington DC, Frankfurt, Guam, Hong Kong, London, and Narita.


https://www.avjobs.com/careers-direc...quirements.asp
A good number of flight crew living in Europe; but no base there.
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Old 20th Mar 2024, 22:54
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Originally Posted by neilki
A good number of flight crew living in Europe; but no base there.
No doubt about that. Crew members commute to US airlines from all over the world and have as long as I can recall. That's a personal, informal choice.

That's a different situation from an airline establishing a formal crew base outside the USA. And there have certainly been overseas bases for US airlines but they are not numerous and likely rather small.

The link you provided is regarding F/As.

It's difficult to keep up with what all US carriers are doing regarding crew basing.
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Old 21st Mar 2024, 23:31
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No doubt about that. Crew members commute to US airlines from all over the world and have as long as I can recall. That's a personal, informal choice.

That's a different situation from an airline establishing a formal crew base outside the USA. And there have certainly been overseas bases for US airlines but they are not numerous and likely rather small.

The link you provided is regarding F/As.

It's difficult to keep up with what all US carriers are doing regarding crew basing.
Not that difficult.

I think the only US carriers with foreign pilot bases were/are cargo (Atlas, Kalitta, Southern etc.), similar to what CX once offered (US and EU). F/As, different story. AA is required to hire Colombian nationals for cabin crew for them to operate the number of flights to Colombia. They are BOG based, have their own union and contract. The same goes for the Chilean and Peruvian. Not sure about Argentina or Brazil.

There are a few EU (ex-) pats that work in the US and live in the EU. Not many though. To me, it's worth it.
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Old 21st Mar 2024, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Squawk7777
Not that difficult.

I think the only US carriers with foreign pilot bases were/are cargo (Atlas, Kalitta, Southern etc.), similar to what CX once offered (US and EU). F/As, different story. AA is required to hire Colombian nationals for cabin crew for them to operate the number of flights to Colombia. They are BOG based, have their own union and contract. The same goes for the Chilean and Peruvian. Not sure about Argentina or Brazil.

There are a few EU (ex-) pats that work in the US and live in the EU. Not many though. To me, it's worth it.

Okay....
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