Air India 777 DEL-SFO diverts to Russia
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Air India 777 DEL-SFO diverts to Russia
An Air India 777 operating from New Delhi to San Francisco has made an emergency landing in Magadan in the Russian Far East after an engine issue (GE engines). There is considerable concern about how Russia will behave towards Americans and others among the 216 pax and 16 crew as well as any GE engineers sent to fix the aircraft:
US-bound Air India passengers face tense wait after landing in Russia
US-bound Air India passengers face tense wait after landing in Russia
Last edited by steamchicken; 7th Jun 2023 at 10:44. Reason: 16 crew, not 10
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Simples.
Send a flight now for passengers and crew (and cargo?). Then recover the aircraft at a later date after hostilities end.
Is a reliable, detailed copy of the cargo manifest available?
Send a flight now for passengers and crew (and cargo?). Then recover the aircraft at a later date after hostilities end.
Is a reliable, detailed copy of the cargo manifest available?
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After Ryanair 4978, this concern is both real and amplified. I couldn’t imagine the fear and concern being an American on that flight, being told you’re diverting to Russia. I think, at this point, I’d not take a flight that was using Russian air space. Hope it’s much to do about nothing - but I’d want no part of it.
I do understand a replacement plane is being sent today - but one minute on the ground in Russia is one minute too many.
I do understand a replacement plane is being sent today - but one minute on the ground in Russia is one minute too many.
After Ryanair 4978, this concern is both real and amplified. I couldn’t imagine the fear and concern being an American on that flight, being told you’re diverting to Russia. I think, at this point, I’d not take a flight that was using Russian air space. Hope it’s much to do about nothing - but I’d want no part of it.
In this specific case my money is about the Russian playing it "by the book", if nothing else for PR benefits. Hope for all involved it will indeed be the case.
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Apparently (from the other thread) it is unreasonable to expect PAX to inquire about their routing...
In this specific case my money is about the Russian playing it "by the book", if nothing else for PR benefits. Hope for all involved it will indeed be the case.
In this specific case my money is about the Russian playing it "by the book", if nothing else for PR benefits. Hope for all involved it will indeed be the case.
Given Modi's & Putin's cosy relationship I can't see any dramas.
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I am sure Russians will just play by the book, it also helps that India is a neutral country towards them, those days it almost mean an ally in their eyes.
Also bringing Air India engineers to inspect/repair is not an issue.
There is a potential twist if the engine needs to be replaced in Magadan. 1) US sanctions on technology and parts export; 2) to bring a complete GE90 assy you need an An-124 and then VDA is banned outside Russia and ADB will not fly to Russia. That will be quite a logistics with paperwork change in transit…
Also bringing Air India engineers to inspect/repair is not an issue.
There is a potential twist if the engine needs to be replaced in Magadan. 1) US sanctions on technology and parts export; 2) to bring a complete GE90 assy you need an An-124 and then VDA is banned outside Russia and ADB will not fly to Russia. That will be quite a logistics with paperwork change in transit…
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Do not see the problem , it is not a US airline . The engineers and an engine ( if needed) can come from India , if a new engine is needed it will;be delivered to India , not Russia.
As to pax checking the route, and buying a ticket accordingly, good luck, unless you buy it last minute after having access to the filed Flight plan .That said, if you fly on an airline not following the sanctions ( e.g. UAE, Chinese, Indian or Turkish companies, ) you can guess they will overfly Russia if the shorted route is via their airspace.
As to pax checking the route, and buying a ticket accordingly, good luck, unless you buy it last minute after having access to the filed Flight plan .That said, if you fly on an airline not following the sanctions ( e.g. UAE, Chinese, Indian or Turkish companies, ) you can guess they will overfly Russia if the shorted route is via their airspace.
Neither Russia nor the USA are going to be stupid about this and cause the Indians a problem - it's not in anyone's interest. Max damage would be a "stiffly worded note" from State = straight in the bin in New Delhi
AI173 either overflies Russia, or goes nowhere near it (depending presumably on winds). It's naive to expect that the majority of passengers will be aware of that.
or that they care anyway
Maybe the Russkis will just impound the 'bad' engine and use it as spares on one of Aeroflots triples. And as has been said there is an astonishing array of routes from AI to get from India to USA but they are literally half a world away