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Old 26th Mar 2023, 13:13
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Jet2 at London Gatwick - will they move in permanently?

With Jet2 growing and expanding, is a permanent base at Gatwick the next natural step for them? Or is it already too crowded, too expensive or out of reach? The south could probably do with some trustworthy package holidays! Surely there's plenty of business to tap into there...

What are your thoughts? What do you know? When will it happen if at all?
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What are your thoughts? What do you know? When will it happen if at all?
What are my thoughts - I think they will at some point, and I think they should.

What do I know - nothing other than it’s a potential opportunity.

When might it happen - sometime in the next few years.
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The two problems I see are finding slots to support the operation and the cost of living for crew members in the Gatwick area is huge.Both will reduce the profit margin on operating flights.
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Originally Posted by tubby linton
The two problems I see are finding slots to support the operation and the cost of living for crew members in the Gatwick area is huge.Both will reduce the profit margin on operating flights.
If it’s a permanent base cost of living is a problem for the crew not the airline so makes no difference for the profits. Biggest problem is the slots…
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LGW is an airport that can ruin an airlines reputation due to slots, staff shortages and high costs for passengers. At the start of 2022 delays of 90 minutes were normal. Some say that was the industry finding it's feet again. I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by excrab
If it’s a permanent base cost of living is a problem for the crew not the airline so makes no difference for the profits. Biggest problem is the slots…
Attracting crew to work for the company in a very expensive area where there is very little unemployment IS the airlines problem.
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They'd have to sink a lot of money into it and it would certainly be an uphill battle.
  • EZY/TUI/BA are entrenched.
  • Ryanair abandoned sun routes (bar ALC), Wizz struggle massively with chopping/changing, and Norwegian also struggled prior to their UK demise
  • Slot capacity at LGW and potential for a poor reputation due to poor airport experience given airport issues.
Just an outsiders opinion of course.

They have a good operation at STN.
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Why would they bother!! Making enough money northwards!
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 09:14
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Why would they bother!! Making enough money northwards!
I don't think that any business 'makes enough money' there's always a drive to increase profits. That said LGW may not be best suited for that, it would just be expansion.
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Originally Posted by tubby linton
Attracting crew to work for the company in a very expensive area where there is very little unemployment IS the airlines problem.
Jet2 would have no issue recruiting in Gatwick, many experienced crew from other airlines would jump across at the drop of a hat.
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Jet2 would have no issue recruiting in Gatwick, many experienced crew from other airlines would jump across at the drop of a hat.
Who from BA/U2/X3 in their right mind would join ? tell me please.
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Originally Posted by k.swiss
Who from BA/U2/X3 in their right mind would join ? tell me please.
People that are on seasonal contracts.
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Originally Posted by k.swiss
Who from BA/U2/X3 in their right mind would join ? tell me please.
Who in their “right mind”!?
Jet2 are well known for the treatment of their crew, plus they have one of the highest salaries of U.K. based cabin crews.
As above, those on season contracts with EZY/TUI etc, and cabin crew are scrambling for ways out of Wizz/BA Euroflyer, not to mention crew from elsewhere who would relocate, there would be no shortage……
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K Swiss...

Originally Posted by k.swiss
Who from BA/U2/X3 in their right mind would join ? tell me please.
According to PPJN, it would take 18 years for a BA short haul Captain to earn the same salary as a year 1 J2 Captain...
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You guys can jump on technicalities all you like. Apart from seasonal no one is leaving.

Any BA Captain even short haul wouldn’t go, kindly reply here if you would.
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Originally Posted by k.swiss
You guys can jump on technicalities all you like. Apart from seasonal no one is leaving.

Any BA Captain even short haul wouldn’t go, kindly reply here if you would.
As an FO at Euroflyer I think I can be quite confident when I say that I know many who would jump across to Jet2, from both seats, including a large number of previous 73 drivers.
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Originally Posted by ClearedToNowhere
As an FO at Euroflyer I think I can be quite confident when I say that I know many who would jump across to Jet2, from both seats, including a large number of previous 73 drivers.
And J2's current recruitment / new recruits absolutely reflects that.
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Jet2 are well known for the treatment of their crews
Do Jet2 have a proper watertight scheduling agreement now? It was the biggest driver in my decision to leave. Management didn’t seem to realise how important this is to some, and just kept throwing pay rises at the workforce. Yes the money is great but for me a better work/life balance is far more important. Anyone joining Jet2 from airlines with proper agreements might be in for a shock unless things have changed significantly since I left.
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Originally Posted by k.swiss
You guys can jump on technicalities all you like. Apart from seasonal no one is leaving.

Any BA Captain even short haul wouldn’t go, kindly reply here if you would.

what are you on about ? I know loads of guys at BA looking to leave . I took the jump a few months ago and haven’t looked back . Admittedly not a captain but a LH SFO .
BA just isn’t that great …..
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Originally Posted by H44
Do Jet2 have a proper watertight scheduling agreement now? It was the biggest driver in my decision to leave. Management didn’t seem to realise how important this is to some, and just kept throwing pay rises at the workforce. Yes the money is great but for me a better work/life balance is far more important. Anyone joining Jet2 from airlines with proper agreements might be in for a shock unless things have changed significantly since I left.
No, and given the animosity towards Balpa, it never will. However they are working hard to keep crew happy with a Lifestyle 2023 package. They are trialling reduced working patterns (fixed roster) as well as preferences for AM/PM working over this summer. They are trying.
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