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Old 1st Feb 2022, 01:26
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BA 321 tail strike?

Some amazing footage indeed... Could this be considered a tail strike by the way?
The voice beyond could be a lil bit less dramatic my humble 2 cents..
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 06:29
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BA 321 tail strike?

Two minutes' checking would have been enough to ascertain that the aircraft in question flew a further rotation t/f Geneva later the same afternoon ...
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 06:39
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Yes the idiot speaking gets way too excited and doesn’t know too much about Aviation I’ve learned.
In one recent video he said regarding lift that the decreased pressure was on the bottom of the wing………
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Out of interest does anyone know why the spoilers didn’t deploy on the firmer of the first two touchdown’s. I would have thought that this would have kept the aircraft on the ground?
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Possibly because the thrust levers had already been advanced?
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Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic View Post
Out of interest does anyone know why the spoilers didn’t deploy on the firmer of the first two touchdown’s.
I would assume TOGA was already pressed moments before the second touchdown.
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 09:21
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Interesting bit of flying... tailstrike averted by the width of a single strand of hair.
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 10:47
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That bloke gets over-excited by anything, as pointed out by Dave Reid it flew again a few hours later so obviously wasn't a tail-strike
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 11:35
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I'm glad the guy who made the video was there to explain what was happening!
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 11:38
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I would assume TOGA was already pressed moments before the second touchdown
I flew the type for 4 years and don't recall being introduced to what you pressed for TOGA! Anyways, sorry for the distraction.
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 11:48
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Originally Posted by TopBunk View Post
I flew the type for 4 years and don't recall being introduced to what you pressed for TOGA! Anyways, sorry for the distraction.
Hence they moved you to the B brand where they are more prominently visible?
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 15:24
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Another thing that Airbus has trained out of operators: the input of up-wind aileron on a crosswind landing to keep the wing down and avoid exactly what happened!
Not that much margin on the tailstrike!!!

Airbus FCOM
"Additionally, the pilot will avoid setting stick into the wind as it increases the weathercock effect. Indeed, it creates a differential down force on the wheels into the wind side."
Boeing 737 FCOM
"As rudder is applied, the upwind wing sweeps forward developing roll. Hold wings level with simultaneous application of aileron control into the wind."

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Airbus has no buttons - you just firewall the thrust levers for TOGA
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 15:41
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The commentary on the video was actually that of BA’s Chief Training Captain.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Two minutes' checking would have been enough to ascertain that the aircraft in question flew a further rotation t/f Geneva later the same afternoon ...
Easy on there tiger, we are not all website savvy. I haven’t a clue myself on how to lookup such information. But I can do crosswind landings without twating the tail better then that!
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 15:58
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BBC News coverage (basically just the same vid)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60216196
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 16:44
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Tail strike or not (probably not), when the landing went pear-shaped, PF surely did the right thing to get away and go round and do it again.
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 16:56
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What’s most amazing about this video is that there was actually footage of a (mini) Airbus landing. Surely there must have been an A350 or 787 moving somewhere on the apron at that moment, that’s what he normally prioritises?
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 16:57
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What’s with the inordinate delay in getting the gear up after the GA?
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Originally Posted by H Peacock View Post
What’s with the inordinate delay in getting the gear up after the GA?
Startle factor most likely, unless they felt it was due to windshear in which case the memory actions are not to touch the config of the aircraft until confidently out of the shear. A convenient excuse for those of us who’ve just forgotten amongst all the startle!
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