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Air Transat Pilots get "Superior Airmanship Awards"

Old 1st Sep 2002, 09:36
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Interesting how Seriph awards Arcniz with the title of amateur, from his profile details, Arcniz shows more qualifications than does Seriph on his profile details!
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Old 1st Sep 2002, 09:47
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About as comprehensive as yours Lofty. The problems of the world at large are of course encapsulated on these pages, no one is ever to blame, no one is required to look at their performance and accept responsibility, there is always some professor, crm expert, management expert or flt sim wizard who will find excuses. An award for this incident could only come from an organisation that will always look to blame someone other than the 'workers'. We eventually reach the absurdities of today, the latest I note is the award of a substantial sum to a deaf person who considered himself discriminated agains when he failed to secure a position as a telephone operator! One used to clutch one's head in disbelief, what is scary now is that nothing shocks us anymore. The inmates are truly running the asylum.
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Old 2nd Sep 2002, 15:22
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Having driven buses for 3.5 years (330 for 10 months) I was always taught to add fuel burnt (on the cruise page on Lower ECAM) to fuel on board, and to do this at regular intervals. As well as regular fuel checks against the plog. is this not good airmanship?

On another note, once in the position they found themselves they did an excellent job. I certainly crashed the first time I had my double engine failure in the sim.
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Old 4th Sep 2002, 21:35
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Thumbs up

I will quote a management speak phrase ( courtesy of Franklin Covey) -

"It is almost impossible to talk (or act) yourself out of a situation you have behaved yourself into"

How many times have we all been there and survived!!!!!!



Congrats to the TS crew
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Old 7th Sep 2002, 16:15
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Angry Are you all crazy? The world has gone mad.

It is wholly inappropriate that these guys should get an award following this incident. Yes they did well to deadstick it into Lajes. BUT they made monumental balls up in the first place.

The cause of the leak is irrelevant that fact was that they had one. What ever type of a/c you are flying, be it a PA28, 747 or A330 you must ask yourself WHY HAVE I GOT A FUEL IMBALANCE?

Yes the ECAM may have been misleading, but no pilot should blindly follow checks without thinking about what they were doing, especially on an Airbus.

The crew were very lucky that they had good weather, a nearby airfield and the skill to deadstick it. They came very close to killing all on board.

Before the romanticists say it, yes I have made mistakes but never one on this scale. If I did I would expect to be sacked, sued and perhaps prosecuted for endangering lives NOT RECEIVE AN AWARD!!!
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Old 7th Sep 2002, 23:23
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fmgc: Well said and may I state one should know their QRH.
 
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In fact, we get paid to know our QRH. Not knowing it (and not using it!) can be deadly.
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Old 8th Sep 2002, 20:21
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Finally

I was waiting for this thread to have postings which were more "realistic" than "un-realistic"

Smooth skies
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