Kabul FIR still safe?
Kabul Airport live stream
At time of posting, Russian funded TV has what is said to be live view of aircraft movements at Kabul.
Note that the video stream can be scrubbed backwards in time should you wish to evaluate recent movements.
Safe travels to all....
Exit. Live stream has ceased, link takes you to two hour replay of the stream.
Note that the video stream can be scrubbed backwards in time should you wish to evaluate recent movements.
Safe travels to all....
Exit. Live stream has ceased, link takes you to two hour replay of the stream.
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Fascinating story here on the captain of a PIA A320 that made the decision to take off from Kabul without authorization. All you pilots out here, would you have made the same call?
https://samchui.com/2021/08/18/make-.../#.YR1hkcpKhZe
https://samchui.com/2021/08/18/make-.../#.YR1hkcpKhZe
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He was actually the Captain of an A320. The B777 is a company aircraft which he mentions. Personally I believe he made the right call. I'm even surprised he waited as long as he did!
Facing the possibility of his aircraft being overrun and his pax taken hostage, I believe he made the correct decision.
He certainly gave a good account of his reasons in the interview, and appears to have acted correctly.
He certainly gave a good account of his reasons in the interview, and appears to have acted correctly.
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Oops corrected to A320. Thanks for the catch.
It obviously all worked out well, but is there outcome bias here? If he had got shot down or collided with a millitary plance, would we still be saying it was the correct decision?
Oops corrected to A320. Thanks for the catch.
It obviously all worked out well, but is there outcome bias here? If he had got shot down or collided with a millitary plance, would we still be saying it was the correct decision?
Having come across a brutal picture, taken from inside the cargo area, of a body protruding from the undercarriage doors, I feel for the crew of the US Globemaster.
One of the heartbreaking aspects of the flight was that one of the victims who fell was just 16 years old.
One of the heartbreaking aspects of the flight was that one of the victims who fell was just 16 years old.
FAA says U.S. carriers can operate Kabul evacuation flights with DOD approval
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...al-2021-08-19/
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...al-2021-08-19/
Nothing heroic here. Pilot did, what every student pilot does on an uncontrolled airfield in VMC conditions. Make the call on CTAF "Kabul traffic...." Throttle forward and off you go. PNF will look out too. Flight-plan activated at the next ATC center you reach as he did. If you do not find the exact situation in the FAA AIM. Thats what your grey mass between your ears is for and its called airmanship.
ATC op or inop will not prevent a shoot down. With so many US military airplanes minding their own business at that time, I would have taken the odds.
ATC op or inop will not prevent a shoot down. With so many US military airplanes minding their own business at that time, I would have taken the odds.
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Updated IFALPA Safety Bulletin (as of August 18)
Previous Int'l Federation of Air Line Pilots Associations Safety Bulletin, updated as of August 18.
update-21sab142-ats-not-available-in-kabul-fir.pdf (ifalpa.org)
update-21sab142-ats-not-available-in-kabul-fir.pdf (ifalpa.org)
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On the NOTAM is a link to https://acaa.gov.af/notam/
There is another link to a an Alternate Webpage to view Afghanistan NOTAM
https://www.afgais.com
saying BY AFGHANISTAN NOTAM OFFICE.
an WHOIs leads to PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC
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E) ALL OPERATORS REQUESTED TO CHECK ACTIVE AFGHANISTAN NOTAM ON
HTTPS://WWW.NOTAM-ACAA.COM ANDHTTPS://WWW.AFGAIS.COM.)
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https://www.afgais.com
saying BY AFGHANISTAN NOTAM OFFICE.
an WHOIs leads to PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC
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Reuters - "We sneaked past the crowd": Airline pilot recounts escape from Kabul.
An interesting account from an ex-pat Kam Air 737 pilot, who operated a 'lights off' departure in darkness to get out of the country.
An interesting account from an ex-pat Kam Air 737 pilot, who operated a 'lights off' departure in darkness to get out of the country.
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IFALPA updates again
IFALPA Safety Bulletin, updated as of 24 August 0800 UTC.
Given this poster's status as just SLF/attorney, I'm not even trying to summarize, or highlight, the content, which those interested surely will access as well as understand.
update-21sab144-kabul-fir-updated-information.pdf (ifalpa.org)
Given this poster's status as just SLF/attorney, I'm not even trying to summarize, or highlight, the content, which those interested surely will access as well as understand.
update-21sab144-kabul-fir-updated-information.pdf (ifalpa.org)
Just for curiosity please...who does (or did these last days) the ATC at Kabul Airport..!?
Military (USA, NATO, etc), some misc., Afghan civil staff, etc?
Military (USA, NATO, etc), some misc., Afghan civil staff, etc?
Without any defensive boots holding the perimeter, that last takeoff is going to be very vulnerable.
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One would assume the last flight will be protected by forces that will leave by helicopters.
A larger question is when they'll pack down the automated C-RAM system that is the real defence of the airport,
as one can see of this article: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/30/a...hnk/index.html
A larger question is when they'll pack down the automated C-RAM system that is the real defence of the airport,
as one can see of this article: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/30/a...hnk/index.html
It's the Taliban's baby now. Last 5 C-17s out departed without problems, C-RAM, other gear and aircraft "demilitarized" - ARFF and civilian ground equipment left intect. Taliban provided area security in the end under a "pragmatic relationship."
"Thanks for all the fish!"
"Thanks for all the fish!"