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2021 Paris Air Show cancelled

Old 11th Dec 2020, 14:46
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Does anyone really care that the show has been cancelled?
You need to bring back aviation and flying back to the general public for starters. This is why trade shows like this are needed as well. Aside from the business networking going on before.
Airline people should be aware that more is needed than video conferencing to sell products and services.
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 16:38
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ATC - Watcher, I did not read the FAZ note too fast. Of course there is always room for negotiations, but it sounded like the decision is final. FAZ, as you probably know, is the most reputeable newspaper in the country.
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 16:53
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As long a Covid 19 is a serious threat, with no end in sight, and with countries closing their borders, there is no way to bring back air travel to the general public. I just see a booking going down the drain. Sadly, but a fact, I have to live with. Even if people have been vaccinated, it might take years to bring air travel back to pre Covid standard. Those who lost their jobs, will have other priorities, than planning for holidays.

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Old 11th Dec 2020, 19:14
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BERLIN, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Lufthansa will have to lay off 1,000 pilots in the second quarter if it cannot seal a wage agreement with unions, Chief Executive Carsten Spohr told German magazine Wirtschaftswoche.

“In the absence of an agreement, it will probably be the first time in the history of our company that 500 captains and 500 first officers will have to leave us in the second quarter of 2021,” Spohr was quoted as saying on Friday.
BEA. I agree FAZ is a very serious paper, did not see the article, but I had read Spohr quote differently on line (above) and I have not yet seen the VC reaction ( nothing on their web site either )so not sure it is final . My guess it is just to push the negotiations towards more concessions from VC. But any way it will end, it will be bad for the crews, that is for sure.
it might take years to bring air travel back to pre Covid standard.
That is unfortunately what I hear also . The Low costs might get back to some form of sustainable ops in 2022 on domestic ( e.g. intra European) but for legacy carriers and long haul it will depend on vaccines effectiveness , travel restrictions and economic recovery . I now hear some openly mention 2029 to get back to 2019 levels..
This afternoon Sanofi, an old serious vaccine laboratory said their phase 3 tests are not conclusive and current high effectiveness is only on young people, so they do not expect to deliver their vaccine before end of 2021.

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Old 11th Dec 2020, 21:49
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Is anyone here serious?
IATA traffic is down 80% plus in their latest statistics (https://centreforaviation.com/news/i...covery-1042061) and we pretend 500 Captains is an issue??
The industry is in danger of disappearing, but management and the workers are both stuck in existing rituals. Sad that no one any better ideas.
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Old 11th Dec 2020, 21:58
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In danger of disappearing - wise words, etudiant.
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Old 13th Dec 2020, 02:11
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Future Air Show Will Be In . . .?

Your friendly forum-neighborhood SLF/attorney, first of all, is staying away from both semi-mourning the semi-death of international civil aviation, as well as overtly prognosticating how bad or how long the depression in air transport will last.

Instead since the thread is about Paris-2021, and for what little it probably counts, since about 1976 when I first read about events like Farnborough and Paris (in a well-known aviation and space weekly periodical) I realized what a fabulous experience it would be to attend either one or both - but only if a professional situation could someday be attained in a part of the industry covered by (at that time) Industry Observer. Heck, as a kid I used to run to one of the observation decks at a certain large Chicago airport every trip there to see people off or pick them up, time permitting. To be at one of the international shows, able to observe? Almost as motivational as an enduring fondness for air travel itself, maybe more. So it's sad, separately from the teetering, near demise of the industry, at the spikey-protein points of a super-novel viral scourge, to know Paris is off the books, for its next round anyway.

Well, almost staying away.... I can't connect the dots from where things stand now to what reason and experience tell us the future will bring, but (IMHO) the benefits of air transport, and the contributions it makes to virtually all sectors of any even medium-sized economy, will lead to its return. Otherwise, just like I'm constantly told to replace "manned" in all earlier references to human spaceflight with "crewed", we should shred all the nicely packaged IATA and ICAO growth projections from over the past, what, ten years or so? And let's not forget also to shred reports like the Wise Persons Group on the Future of the Single European Sky (April 2019) along with many, many reports and documents about future ATM and the aviation sector in general. If I have to pronounce a hope, it would be that the vaccine as inoculation will bring some restoration - but as an example of "get-off-your-cellphone and develop something complex technologically fast" ingenuity it will be the real restorative attitude adjustment. Meanwhile, we'll always have Paris . . . no?
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Old 13th Dec 2020, 08:22
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The air show part might be nice to watch for the public but the trade show part is what is and will remain relevant. A lot of technologies are changing, carbon, hydrogen, unmanned, electric, fabrication, computing and such, so new suppliers and innovators are looked for. There is every reason for the industry to meet again when this is over. It's not a thing of the past. Skype is not enough. Not sure if every trade show will survive but some, including Paris, are needed.
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