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Old 27th Sep 2020, 23:05
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Like the 74's.. Why burn fuel in 4 gas turbines when you can get 2/3rd of the pax across with 2? Work the maths out the 4 donk drivers. 2 Engines carrying Zero Squared at the mo is also cheaper that 4..
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Old 27th Sep 2020, 23:06
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The opening of factory space allows wings from a 3rd party country to be built in the EU. Watch that space.
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Old 27th Sep 2020, 23:27
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What was the great engineering achievement? Other than size, it seemed to be a pretty conventional aircraft to me and was not that much better than the B-747 which has been in service for 50 years.
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Old 27th Sep 2020, 23:52
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The reasons why it is a fantastic achievement are many and varied. Are you from the USA by any chance ? as consolation I feel the B747 was also a great aeroplane, and a real gamble at a time when the future looked to be set fair for supersonic transport aircraft to take over the world .
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 03:59
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Plane as a shortcut to saying airplane comes from the fact that a wing is fundamentally an inclined plane, not a wood plane....I say plane all the time.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 05:00
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I'm still waiting for a specific example of the "great engineering achievement". Don't get me wrong, I think that the A380 is a fine aircraft, but I fail to see it as a 'break through" design of any sort.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 05:13
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Originally Posted by srjumbo747 View Post
Well the facts are theyíve stopped making it because it didnít work.
Em, no; this thing called Covid killed an industry.If Covid hadn't happened they would have kept going for a while. If anything killed 4 engined aircraft it was twins and ETOPS
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 05:30
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They had announced the axing of the program before Covid,.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 06:51
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Still the most comfortable and quietest cabin in the sky, albeit the A350 comes close on the latter point.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 10:13
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Ugly? Not from the inside, and economy London to Sydney in an A380 knocks spots off travel in a B777 or B787 in my opinion.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 10:20
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Today many aircraft are too big for the current market including big twins. Airbus had no GE90-115B available so they went the quad route.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 11:56
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My two A380 flights LHR-FRA and back changed my resolution never to fly long-haul again, as long as I could do it on an A380. Not that I have, yet.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 13:25
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As a mere SLF (and not a particularly well-heeled one at that!), the A380 is easily my favourite commercial aeroplane I've flown on. One flight that stands out was LHR-YVR a few years ago, sat towards the back of the upper deck. Whisper quiet, and very comfortable for economy.

Never really understood the comments about it being an 'ugly' aeroplane. It might not be the most visually attractive of all-time, but it's fine, and quite a sight to at take-off and on approach.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 13:40
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I’m with DP. Great aeroplane for the SLF. When travelling Sydney to the UK we would make sure that we flew on an A380. Quiet, spacious and one one memorable occasion when we had accumulated a few frequent flyer points, we had a shower in the air! No other aeroplane can do that.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 20:22
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Love paxing in the 380/350/747 vs 777/787 from a comfort perspective.

Still mass long haul is dead for a while so we’ll have to make do with what we can afford/what’s left when things open up again in a couple of years or so.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 22:05
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Jack D;

Well a couple of points - First Class on the A380 was good, the showers were a gimmick that I never bothered with. But First Class on all major airlines is good - the only thing that made EK's First Class stand out was the individual cabins and they have those on the 777. The bar area was good but they were not the first airline to have a bar, Imperial Airlines had one in the 1930's.

The A380 didnt have anything that other airlines or aircraft types had - that is why compared with Concorde (or the 747) it was not a revolution, or even evolution, in air travel.
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Old 28th Sep 2020, 22:55
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I wish it were so that first cl on all major airlines is good , sadly that really isnít the case. Try any US carrier and prepare to be disappointed

As for cabin innovation , bars showers etc.I agree nothing new , but also nothing else has them at the moment , and the comfort and low noise levels, both inside and outside,are exceptional.

The achievement lies in a company, which was only founded in the early 70,s , building, assembling and successfully launching the worlds largest passenger aircraft . Allegedly there are more than 400 technological advances on the aeroplane , which imo counts for something .

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Old 28th Sep 2020, 23:23
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Who really cares about what the A380 looks like , it's not a fashion parade where looks count it's built for passengers to enjoy flying and it succeeds handsomely.
Over my many years in aviation I have travelled in an awful lot of aeroplane types in all 3 classes but in the last 10 years either first or Business class.
Without any doubt whatever the A380 wins the comfort and enjoyment as a passenger by a very long mile!!!
The B747 was very good but nowhere near as good as the A380 as far as passenger comfort goes.
The B777 and B787 are not very nice at all , bloody noisy and uncomfortable.
The A350 is IMOP the next best thing to the A380 and the others don't come anywhere near it, it really is a most pleasant aeroplane to passenger in.
It's very sad to see such a wonderful passengers aeroplane as the A380 virtually disappear from our skies.
One can only hope it returns post Covid.
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Old 29th Sep 2020, 02:30
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It’s an aeroplane or an airplane but not a plane.
Plane as a shortcut to saying airplane comes from the fact that a wing is fundamentally an inclined plane, not a wood plane....I say plane all the time
In the very early days of flight they didn't say "to fly", the phrase used was "to plane", pity the easily searchable early copies of "Flight" are no longer available so you could see the use of the word "plane" in context. Then the US Navy has a person called a "Plane Captain", not involved in carpentry, but responsible for the maintenance of a particular aircraft, the airframe "belongs" to him, and aircrew get to have a lend of same.
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Old 29th Sep 2020, 03:21
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Boeing killed the 747 and the all other 4 engine pax aircraft when they built the triple 7.. or rather the regulators did when they gave it 3 hours ETOPS... yet Airbus still went ahead with the whale... not a good looking aircraft by any standards, and was never going to compete with the 747 because it cant be converted into a freighter...it was never going to be a success, it might fly nice ( but how would a pilot know unless he turns off the playstation controlling it !!! ) French arrogance ( or a few high high ups at AB) , pushed it though because they thought anything Boeing can do we can do worse, i mean better, and it has its time and place in history...... I bet all the city's and airport authorities who spent millions upgrading runways and terminals are thrilled they wasted all that cash
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