TUI Zante to Cardiff - Covid
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If EasyJet can do it ...
In August I flew EasyJet LGW-KGS and RHO-LGW and the mask discipline was perfect on both flights.
So what is EasyJet doing that TUI apparently can not do?
So what is EasyJet doing that TUI apparently can not do?
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So what is EasyJet doing that TUI apparently can not do?
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Having had Jet2 EMA - BJV holiday in May cancelled and then a re-booked trip BHX - FUE also cancelled 10 days prior to departure, and reading that to many people Covid doesnt apply to them, we have decided not to book a third trip until it does.
'guidance' doesn't cut it -it needs enforceable Laws. Misbehaving Pax - straight to first possible airport en route or if already due to land, cancel return flight.
So thats probably our flying based trips in the bin.
Having had Jet2 EMA - BJV holiday in May cancelled and then a re-booked trip BHX - FUE also cancelled 10 days prior to departure, and reading that to many people Covid doesnt apply to them, we have decided not to book a third trip until it does.
'guidance' doesn't cut it -it needs enforceable Laws. Misbehaving Pax - straight to first possible airport en route or if already due to land, cancel return flight.
So thats probably our flying based trips in the bin.
I really can't see somebody politely but firmly refusing to wear a mask as being a reason to divert, with all the extra risk and disruption that might entail.. so I guess sadly you are probably correct.
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You can cause someone enough inconvenience without diverting. Get him on the black list and offloaded by police on arrival. Two or three of those will be enough of a deterrent to everyone else who decides that COVID doesn't apply to them. The regulators need to wake up and actually make their "recommendations" enforceable until such time that concerns of mass contagion are no longer a thing. The one and only way to actually reinstate some confidence in people that safety measures are not just a salesman's chatter to lure them into booking.
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Indeed - and for many other people the same plan applies. The average air passenger will never analyse in detail whose fault it was that whatever was advertised on the booking site didn't come into play on the actual flight. In their view, the airlines are the villains who lie to people that they're taking all necessary precautions while not taking any just because they want money, no matter what the human cost of it. People understandably feel played with, cheated upon and angry as, effectively, they're sold a product under a false trade description. They won't analyse whether it was due to the crew, to the airline management or to the regulator. All they know is that they were sold a "COVID-safe" flight which actually wasn't. And it's high time the CAA took a firm stance on it. COVID is not going to go away tomorrow or next month. If we are to survive it, we as airline personnel need backing from the regulator.
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They are smart enough to understand the risk, and won't be on an aircraft for the forseeable . . .
You're going to be flying neanderthal's who won't comply with recommendations for some time . . .
Unfortunately, but then you reap what you sow . . .
You're going to be flying neanderthal's who won't comply with recommendations for some time . . .
Unfortunately, but then you reap what you sow . . .
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i just came back from Sweden yesterday...Linkoping-Amsterdam-London-Toronto-Montreal, all in one freaking day. Was wearing that silly mask for almost 24 hrs, brutal ! And when I think of its lack of real usefulness , it make me grind my teeth !
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History may that TUI single handedly killed the holiday flight industry by ignoring the rules and then lying to the Press about how good they were and being caught out.
"Fool me once - - "
History may that TUI single handedly killed the holiday flight industry by ignoring the rules and then lying to the Press about how good they were and being caught out.
"Fool me once - - "
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Or, people with a brain will be well aware that COVID cases have come into the U.K. on thousands of flights, people are more likely to catch it in their local shop, and this was just somebody getting their 5 minutes of fame?
The media and the population’s general lack of intelligence is what is going to kill this industry. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be a cure for the the virus of stupidity.
Or, people with a brain will be well aware that COVID cases have come into the U.K. on thousands of flights, people are more likely to catch it in their local shop, and this was just somebody getting their 5 minutes of fame?
The media and the population’s general lack of intelligence is what is going to kill this industry. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be a cure for the the virus of stupidity.
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People with a brain know that passing contact with someone in a shop is unlikely to give them COVID. They also know that hanging around in a snake queue for 40 minutes to check in, hanging around in a snake queue at security, hanging around at a gate for an hour, then sitting like a sardine in an air conditioned tube for four hours may well, whether people are wearing (non surgical) masks or not. From my experience of LHR the airline industry (both on the ground and in the air) is self harming: they are simply not taking their responsibilities seriously or taking obvious steps to keep people safe.
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Unfortunately the government seem to have taken a policy decision to kill the travel industry with stroboscopic rule changes. The risk of contracting the virus on a flight is far lower than many other activities we take for granted; certainly lower than visiting a pub.
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Another pour soul brainwashed by the sensationalist media then. Out of interest when was the last time you queued 40 minutes for check in? I’m not sure I ever have (maybe in Heraklion on a Friday night in 2009 it may have gotten close to 40 minutes)
I assume your plan would involve banning all public transport then? I mean, crammed onto a bus with limited or no air conditioning? A tube train, not very well ventilated. Ban it all.
And passing contact with somebody in a shop? What about all the products you’ve picked with your hands, were they placed there by robots? Have the products that have been touched by other customers and put back immediately vanished from the shelf? Do the self service screens clean themselves after every customer? And those card machines, are the buttons covered in magic anti-virus film?
I’d say one is far safer sitting on an aircraft personally. But that view doesn’t sell newspapers.
I assume your plan would involve banning all public transport then? I mean, crammed onto a bus with limited or no air conditioning? A tube train, not very well ventilated. Ban it all.
And passing contact with somebody in a shop? What about all the products you’ve picked with your hands, were they placed there by robots? Have the products that have been touched by other customers and put back immediately vanished from the shelf? Do the self service screens clean themselves after every customer? And those card machines, are the buttons covered in magic anti-virus film?
I’d say one is far safer sitting on an aircraft personally. But that view doesn’t sell newspapers.
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Heathrow, Terminal 5, Business Class to Italy (no online check in), 4th August, 40 minutes
Heathrow, Terminal 5, Economy to Italy (no online check in), 14th August, 30 minutes
I wash my hands after I go to a shop, and the population density in shops is low. Less than 10% of virus transmission is from surfaces, 90% by inhaling contaminated air.
If we are comparing shops and airports: at check in, hand over my passport, handed back with a boarding pass, self service reader at security, hand over passport and boarding pass at the gate, handed back, handed a wet wipe by cabin crew....
I take the point on pubs (that is what went wrong in Aberdeen), commuter trains and the underground. Buses have restricted numbers (30 on a London bus that normally seats 72) and long distance trains have reserved seating, lower seating density than planes, and 50% of the seats empty.
Have you seen Wizz Air to Luton?
Heathrow, Terminal 5, Economy to Italy (no online check in), 14th August, 30 minutes
I wash my hands after I go to a shop, and the population density in shops is low. Less than 10% of virus transmission is from surfaces, 90% by inhaling contaminated air.
If we are comparing shops and airports: at check in, hand over my passport, handed back with a boarding pass, self service reader at security, hand over passport and boarding pass at the gate, handed back, handed a wet wipe by cabin crew....
I take the point on pubs (that is what went wrong in Aberdeen), commuter trains and the underground. Buses have restricted numbers (30 on a London bus that normally seats 72) and long distance trains have reserved seating, lower seating density than planes, and 50% of the seats empty.
Have you seen Wizz Air to Luton?
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