Average US flight 17 pax
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Average US flight 17 pax
"Even after grounding more than 3,000 aircraft, or nearly 50% of the active U.S. fleet, the group said its member carriers, which include the four largest U.S. airlines, are averaging just 17 passengers per domestic flight and 29 passengers per international flight."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/co...travel-decline
Shouldn't have to worry about social distancing at this rate.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/co...travel-decline
Shouldn't have to worry about social distancing at this rate.
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I really can't see any significant improvement until such a time that:
a) An effective vaccine is found and available, or b) an effective treatment is found which can effectively and successfully treat anyone who becomes infected.
a) An effective vaccine is found and available, or b) an effective treatment is found which can effectively and successfully treat anyone who becomes infected.
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Got another update from my buddy Ed Bastain at Delta.
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
- Requiring masks to keep everyone safe. Providing every person with an extra layer of protection will help make your travel experience safe. That’s why we are temporarily requiring face masks or face coverings for everyone – Delta employees included – in the check-in lobby, Delta Sky Clubs®, gate areas, jet bridges and on board our aircraft. If you find yourself without a face mask or covering, don’t hesitate to ask our team for one – we’re here for you.
- Giving you more space onboard with new seating policies. Limiting the number of people you pass on the way to your seat and providing you with additional space is a priority. For these reasons, we recently started back-to-front boarding, capped seating at 50 percent in First Class and 60 percent in Main Cabin, and created new seating policies that keep middle seats blocked. On planes without middle seats, we are blocking select aisle and window seats to give you even more peace of mind during your travels. And as you deplane, please take time to create distance for those ahead of you to exit.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
Got another update from my buddy Ed Bastain at Delta.
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
Got another update from my buddy Ed Bastain at Delta.
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
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And, with these new seating plans, will some seats actually be removed to save weight if they won't be used for a while? Will the FAA required number of flight attendants be reduced under 121.391? Seems like traditionally seating capacity for Part 121 purposes meant installed seats even of they were blocked for some reason.
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No one wants to fly unless they have to. That is the be all and end all of it . POTUS can twitter as much as he likes, but people will not fly unless they have had it or know they have had it .
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Originally Posted by vikingivesterled
Regulations says minimum1 flight attendant per 50 passengers or part thereof. That is by actual total number of passengers per flight and not by number of seats.
That's a new one on me.
§ 121.391 Flight attendants.
(a) Except as specified in § 121.393 and § 121.394, each certificate holder must provide at least the following flight attendants on board each passenger-carrying airplane when passengers are on board:
(4) For airplanes having a seating capacity of more than 100 passengers - two flight attendants plus one additional flight attendant for each unit (or part of a unit) of 50 passenger seats above a seating capacity of 100 passengers.
(a) Except as specified in § 121.393 and § 121.394, each certificate holder must provide at least the following flight attendants on board each passenger-carrying airplane when passengers are on board:
(4) For airplanes having a seating capacity of more than 100 passengers - two flight attendants plus one additional flight attendant for each unit (or part of a unit) of 50 passenger seats above a seating capacity of 100 passengers.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
So, if those 17 pax show up on a 777 they only need one flight attendant?
That's a new one on me.
That's a new one on me.
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Originally Posted by vikingivesterled
I see that the 50 seat is the general rule from the FAA. However EASA allows variations based on that each aircraft type comes from the manufacturer with a minimum cabin crew requirment based on its emergency evacuation testing.
Originally Posted by vikingivesterled
Regulations says minimum1 flight attendant per 50 passengers or part thereof. That is by actual total number of passengers per flight and not by number of seats.
Originally Posted by vikingivesterled
You could also argue that if a plane has 3 different passenger compartments but only 1 of them is open for passengers does it still have the full complement of seats or just the ones in the opened compartment. Sample if downstairs was closed for passengers on a 747 should one only count the upstairs seats.
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I have been on nine flights since the quarantines went into effect and the number of passengers have varied from zero to 100 or so, with the median being about fifteen. These were all on aircraft with capacity around 300. The number of flight attendants really won’t change because they need to have enough for the trip out and back, and It’s not like they are short of personnel. What strikes me now, after having to line up with the rest of the passengers at ORD to deplane one at a time for health screening, is how much of a pain in the butt this is going to be once the planes are full again. People are going to freak out if they have to sit next to a stranger, and some airlines block the middle seats, some block the aisle seats, etc. Not to mention health forms, mandatory mask wearing and reductions in service. It is going to be a long summer for those of us who fly for a living.
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Originally Posted by Long Haul
I have been on nine flights since the quarantines went into effect and the number of passengers have varied from zero to 100 or so, with the median being about fifteen. These were all on aircraft with capacity around 300. The number of flight attendants really won’t change because they need to have enough for the trip out and back, and It’s not like they are short of personnel. What strikes me now, after having to line up with the rest of the passengers at ORD to deplane one at a time for health screening, is how much of a pain in the butt this is going to be once the planes are full again. People are going to freak out if they have to sit next to a stranger, and some airlines block the middle seats, some block the aisle seats, etc. Not to mention health forms, mandatory mask wearing and reductions in service. It is going to be a long summer for those of us who fly for a living.
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Don't forget the TSA - you know changes are coming.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
And, with these new seating plans, will some seats actually be removed to save weight if they won't be used for a while? Will the FAA required number of flight attendants be reduced under 121.391? Seems like traditionally seating capacity for Part 121 purposes meant installed seats even of they were blocked for some reason.
Originally Posted by Airbubba
Got another update from my buddy Ed Bastain at Delta.
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
Here's the new plan for packing the planes:
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
Looks like United has not implemented social distancing seating on some flights yet.
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Originally Posted by cappt
That's good to see! This is a country on the move, we can't sit still for too long, people are getting edgy. The 2.2 million forecasted dead by that UK expert (cheater) was a hoax.
