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A380 'Hovering'

Old 17th Feb 2020, 05:49
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I don't buy "kicked rudder the wrong way" You just wouldn't. It's in muscle memory. You wouldn't turn a car steering wheel the wrong way, towards the thing you're trying to avoid.
Don't be so sure. I have seen it done. A lot of pilots are still unsure how to use the rudder properly during a crosswind landing and think its just a fly by numbers exercise. The problem is if they pre-program their rudder input and use the wrong foot relative to the wind then it gets very ugly very quickly.
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Old 17th Feb 2020, 06:08
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Originally Posted by JanetFlight View Post
Cool...you have a x-wind landing clip filming from the front and you say its gonna be different with you...?
Besides the fact i respect your post and your piloting techniques dont forget that Camera angles can do very nice tricks depending the perspective.
Yes. This was clearly taken with a very long lans, the foreshortening can be very misleading
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Old 17th Feb 2020, 06:30
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Originally Posted by Locked door View Post
We don’t “kick” commercial aircraft straight, we squeeze off the drift, and on appropriate types we can lower the in to wind wing too.

”Kicking” sounds so Daily Mail (or sky news).
Good luck trying to ban a term that's been around since Pontius was a pilot.




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Old 19th Feb 2020, 22:34
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Another View of Etihad A380 Xwind Landing...Maybe Not so Bad!

The tail camera on that flight gives a completely different perspective on this viral landing video. Sorry for new thread but previous thread was locked. Maybe all the critical viewpoints voiced on this board will revise their views.


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Old 19th Feb 2020, 22:42
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Originally Posted by Lake1952 View Post
The tail camera on that flight gives a completely different perspective on this viral landing video. Sorry for new thread but previous thread was locked.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHsMIdfD5Gg
The best part is the customer survey screen popping up just after the expletive in reaction to an unexpectedly (at least for that passenger) hard landing.

It could only have been better if Clippy had popped up with "It looks like you were rattled. Can I help draft a complaint?"

I do like the tail-top view.
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 22:46
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Originally Posted by Lake1952 View Post
The tail camera on that flight gives a completely different perspective on this viral landing video. Sorry for new thread but previous thread was locked. Maybe all the critical viewpoints voiced on this board will revise their views.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHsMIdfD5Gg

Lake, thanks greatly for sharing that video. Assuming that is the same flight, those in Etihad management should review their comments given that video, which will be consistent with the QAR data.

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Old 19th Feb 2020, 23:18
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Its not the same landing.

The video before was of A6-APJ (EY19) and this one is on board A6-API (EY25)

Its also pretty obvious that this one is de-crabbed before touchdown and the other one isnt.
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 23:39
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Such a shame everyone was vying for blood.

The rush some of us experience when it comes to flogging our colleagues and seeking to elevate our own self worth through their misfortune is very sad. We are not supportive of each other as it should be, we rush to attack before ever thinking to defend. I hope the crew weren't reading the previous thread on this topic.

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Old 20th Feb 2020, 00:13
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Originally Posted by fdr View Post
Lake, thanks greatly for sharing that video. Assuming that is the same flight, those in [redacted] management should review their comments given that video, which will be consistent with the QAR data.
The Boeing Training Manager wasn't too impressed with how they do it on the 'bus:



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Old 20th Feb 2020, 00:37
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Just shows how the distortions from a telephoto lens which is way off the centerline of the runway completely changes the perception... parallax effect.
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