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Gibraltar and Spain gamesmanship.

Old 1st Feb 2020, 07:43
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I am constantly amazed how easy it is to open the nationalist devil in relatively well educated people. cerebrating the Brexit last night like a victory and now evocation of nuclear weapons and glass boats against Spain , a fellow country where millions of Brits are spending their holidays each year. This is beyond comprehension to me, maybe it is time for you guys to buys caps with Make Britain Great Again ( like in 1588) and follow a leader that will tell you extraordinary lies....
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Old 1st Feb 2020, 10:20
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It is of course complete nonsense to suggest that Gib is Spanish territory.
As eny fule no it was ceded to UK in perpetuity by the treaty of Utrecht following the War of Spanish Succession, fundamentally a Habsburg claim to the Spanish throne.

It is this clearly and unequivocably British.

The Falklands were never ceded to Britain by international treaty, merely claimed - but equally unequivocably British as no one else had claimed them first. They no more belong to Argentina due to proximity (an utterly spurious and worthless concept) than the Channel Islands belong to France or the Isle of Man belongs to Ireland, or, for that matter that Ireland belongs to Gt. Britain.

If Spain claims Gib it will have to show the Treaty of Utrecht was somehow illegal.

And given their armed occupation of Ceuta and Mellila that is ratified by no treaty I know of this claim is about as hypocritical and irrational as irrational hypocricy gets.
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Old 1st Feb 2020, 14:12
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Originally Posted by ATC Watcher View Post
I am constantly amazed how easy it is to open the nationalist devil in relatively well educated people. cerebrating the Brexit last night like a victory and now evocation of nuclear weapons and glass boats against Spain , a fellow country where millions of Brits are spending their holidays each year. This is beyond comprehension to me, maybe it is time for you guys to buys caps with Make Britain Great Again ( like in 1588) and follow a leader that will tell you extraordinary lies....
Fully agree - except for the "relatively well educated people" part ...
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Old 1st Feb 2020, 16:12
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He did say "relatively"
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