UK capacity and LHR both appear as Parliament opens
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UK Government new laws on airline insolvencies
Proposed in the Queen's Speech at start of new Parliament today. Page 97 etc here in the published speech
https://assets.publishing.service.go...fing_notes.pdf
Can't see how that will work, allowing the carrier to continue under special legislation to do the repatriation. If they have a debt for landing fees or fuel overseas, nothing the UK can legislate for can stop the aircraft being seized there in accordance with their own national laws.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...fing_notes.pdf
Can't see how that will work, allowing the carrier to continue under special legislation to do the repatriation. If they have a debt for landing fees or fuel overseas, nothing the UK can legislate for can stop the aircraft being seized there in accordance with their own national laws.
Proposed in the Queen's Speech at start of new Parliament today. Page 97 etc here in the published speech
https://assets.publishing.service.go...fing_notes.pdf
Can't see how that will work, allowing the carrier to continue under special legislation to do the repatriation. If they have a debt for landing fees or fuel overseas, nothing the UK can legislate for can stop the aircraft being seized there in accordance with their own national laws.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...fing_notes.pdf
Can't see how that will work, allowing the carrier to continue under special legislation to do the repatriation. If they have a debt for landing fees or fuel overseas, nothing the UK can legislate for can stop the aircraft being seized there in accordance with their own national laws.
Establishing and enhancing a repatriation ‘toolkit’ of mechanisms for
companies and passengers, including making it easier for the Civil Aviation
Authority to grant a Temporary Airline Operating Licence so that an airline can
continue repatriating passengers following insolvency.
companies and passengers, including making it easier for the Civil Aviation
Authority to grant a Temporary Airline Operating Licence so that an airline can
continue repatriating passengers following insolvency.
Territorial extent and application
The legislation’s provisions would extend and apply to the whole of the UK.
Civil aviation and insolvency are reserved matters.
The legislation’s provisions would extend and apply to the whole of the UK.
Civil aviation and insolvency are reserved matters.
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Surely, the whole thing revolves around the administrator's view of things. If an administrator takes over an insolvent airline and determines, from the books, that there is no money to pay airports, fuel suppliers, crew etc nothing is going to happen.
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The CAA can’t organise an inebriated celebration at an alcohol distillation establishment. It’s laughable that anyone would think them capable of running an airline....even a “temporary one”!
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Not difficult, set up an airline "Rescue Air" then a quick splash of paint over the logo of the defunct airline.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
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Not difficult, set up an airline "Rescue Air" then a quick splash of paint over the logo of the defunct airline.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
Great idea, provided it can be done in less than 2-3 days.
Not difficult, set up an airline "Rescue Air" then a quick splash of paint over the logo of the defunct airline.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
If someone blocks the plane in a foreign airport, the new owner will have to take legal action to release it in the foreign courts. How long will that take?
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And where does "Rescue Air" get the funds to buy the aircraft? If the administrator sells the aircraft for £1, they will find themselves in trouble with the Insolvency Service, creditors et al. And as the sale would probably need to include multiple aircraft, it gets more complex and more expensive.
Monarch had enough cash to pay all bills until about February - about 5 months. It was the CAA’s (absolutely correct) requirement for 12 months cash that, coupled with the lack of a buyer, meant it was no longer a going concern. its passengers could have been repatriated under this new law (in principle) under this new law.
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UK capacity and LHR both appear as Parliament opens
These two articles are reported in the UK newspaper: The Independent.
How reassuring that the politicians know that we have outdated practices and that we can increase capacity. Obviously they have discussed this with the EU for any new traffic entering via their airspace ... 
The Independent
ON THE SAME DAY
LHR R3 delayed (no surprise)
So we get More and Less in the same day. Who said the politicians weren't brilliant? 
The Independent
Boris Johnson unveils plan to increase number of flights, despite global climate emergency: 'A total disregard for the planet'
New aviation bill promises to squeeze more flights into same airspace and growth for sector
Ministers say growth will be "sustainable" and that supposedly outdated practices "limit the number of flights the airspace can safely accommodate".
New aviation bill promises to squeeze more flights into same airspace and growth for sector
Ministers say growth will be "sustainable" and that supposedly outdated practices "limit the number of flights the airspace can safely accommodate".
The Independent
ON THE SAME DAY
LHR R3 delayed (no surprise)
Heathrow’s owners have blamed the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) for delaying the opening of the planned third runway at Britain’s busiest airport.
Expansion was originally promised for 2026. But Heathrow Airport Limited says that, after a ruling by the CAA on development costs, the additional runway will not be ready until some time between early 2028 and late 2029.
In order to deliver the controversial third runway by 2026, Heathrow wanted to spend £2.9bn (at 2014 prices) in advance of planning permission being granted. But a CAA paper on the early costs associated with expansion describes the 2026 target as an “aggressive schedule”. Were planning permission not to be granted, it says, airport charges and passenger fares might rise because of the “sunk costs”.
Expansion was originally promised for 2026. But Heathrow Airport Limited says that, after a ruling by the CAA on development costs, the additional runway will not be ready until some time between early 2028 and late 2029.
In order to deliver the controversial third runway by 2026, Heathrow wanted to spend £2.9bn (at 2014 prices) in advance of planning permission being granted. But a CAA paper on the early costs associated with expansion describes the 2026 target as an “aggressive schedule”. Were planning permission not to be granted, it says, airport charges and passenger fares might rise because of the “sunk costs”.
The Independent
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Heathrow’s owners have blamed the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) for delaying the opening of the planned third runway at Britain’s busiest airport.
Expansion was originally promised for 2026. But Heathrow Airport Limited says that, after a ruling by the CAA on development costs, the additional runway will not be ready until some time between early 2028 and late 2029.
In order to deliver the controversial third runway by 2026, Heathrow wanted to spend £2.9bn (at 2014 prices) in advance of planning permission being granted. But a CAA paper on the early costs associated with expansion describes the 2026 target as an “aggressive schedule”. Were planning permission not to be granted, it says, airport charges and passenger fares might rise because of the “sunk costs”.
Expansion was originally promised for 2026. But Heathrow Airport Limited says that, after a ruling by the CAA on development costs, the additional runway will not be ready until some time between early 2028 and late 2029.
In order to deliver the controversial third runway by 2026, Heathrow wanted to spend £2.9bn (at 2014 prices) in advance of planning permission being granted. But a CAA paper on the early costs associated with expansion describes the 2026 target as an “aggressive schedule”. Were planning permission not to be granted, it says, airport charges and passenger fares might rise because of the “sunk costs”.
You also have to wonder just what another £2.9bn being spent on advance planning work only, not a shovel into the ground of the actual runway, could possibly be spent on, after all the umpteen designs already produced. And maybe the CAA wondered as well.
Adding the cost of work now at todays prices will also mask the true costs to be incurred in 2026, does the team think that if they were required to take a reserve at 2026 prices it would still happen?
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You also have to wonder just what another £2.9bn being spent on advance planning work only, not a shovel into the ground of the actual runway, could possibly be spent on ...
Not difficult, set up an airline "Rescue Air" then a quick splash of paint over the logo of the defunct airline.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
Administrator sells aircraft to Rescue Air, CAA issues new registrations.
Rescue Air does not owe money to anyone.
Creditors can fight it out with the administrator.
