King Air 200 stolen in Fresno by a 17-yo

[krismiler]

I am simply pointing out that information is much easier to find these days and that isn't always a good thing, the possible consequences need to be looked at when it's easy to discover how to open a hotel room safe or break into a car with a quick search online.The latest scams are available online, is someone going to use the information to make sure they don't get caught or try running a few themselves ?

When I was a child, parents were the main source of information and this gave status to them as you had to go and ask, now it's Google

[OldnGrounded]

Originally Posted by krismiler

I am simply pointing out that information is much easier to find these days and that isn't always a good thing, the possible consequences need to be looked at when it's easy to discover how to open a hotel room safe or break into a car with a quick search online.The latest scams are available online, is someone going to use the information to make sure they don't get caught or try running a few themselves ?

When I was a child, parents were the main source of information and this gave status to them as you had to go and ask, now it's Google

My point is that the information is going to continue to be online, in one way or another, as long as people find it interesting. Effectively, that means forever. People will use it, or not, according to their needs and intentions. That has always been the case, regardless of the ways information has been stored and distributed.

We can look at the possible consequences, but that's all we can do, other than the right thing, which is to design and implement security in ways that actually work.

In the world of engineering, the practice of trying to use hiding, cloaking, etc. as a security measure is referred to as "security through obscurity*." It has been deprecated since the mid-nineteenth century.

*Most commonly used, in recent decades, in the world of software.

[BDAttitude]

Probably a good ol’ paper based flight manual to be found at arm’s length somewhere in that plane. No need to drain the data plan.
Construction equipment of the same manufacturer typically only have one key. So have doors of railroad engines. Key management would be too complex. But sssht. Don’t tell anyone.

[dash34]

Originally Posted by BDAttitude

Probably a good ol’ paper based flight manual to be found at arm’s length somewhere in that plane. No need to drain the data plan.
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Probably true, but probably the last option today's teenagers would consider if they were trying to get a plane started.

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by capngrog

The damage to the airplane looks to be pretty extensive, and I wonder where the prop wound up. She's lucky that she didn't eat the prop ... or it her. I can sense the insurance companies scrambling, and the lawyers circling (like the buzzards they are).

Christmas Cheers,
Grog

eh the aircraft insurance company will just cut the check for total loss. They can look into recovering from the girl's family, but they probably don't have assets of any significance so the insurance company will eat most if not all of that loss. Since nobody died, the chum isn't fragrant enough to attract the sharks.

[OldnGrounded]

Originally Posted by Beamr

stealing a cold and dark plane from an airfield is way different from hijacking an airplane midair. I believe this is what was meant.

Yes, of course.

[Disso]

This could have been worlds worse to a ridiculous degree if God forbid, she managed to get it going and it traveled at full speed out of control into a taxiing airliner full of fuel, or even managed to get enough speed to get it off the ground into the air, out of control, into the city. Really says a lot about the security, or lack-thereof, on the field.

[n5296s]

Probably true, but probably the last option today's teenagers would consider if they were trying to get a plane started.

Also not a great idea if you're in a hurry. A few weeks ago I got checked out in the DA40 for the first time in many years. As usual I spent an hour sitting in the aircraft reading the PoH before trying to fly it. Most of that time was VERY uncomfortable until somewhere around page 200 I found the instructions for adjusting the rudder pedal position (when the plane is locked up they are advanced as close as possible to the seat, to accommodate the gust lock).

[daved123]

Seems to be popular. Reported yesterday in 'La Depeche du Midi' that a 16yo Moroccan was up before the bench in youth court after being found in the cockpit of a Vueling A321 at Paris-Orly in June. A maint tech noticed a light in the cockpit of the parked plane and found a set of portable air-stairs and the plane open. He investigated and found the youth in the cockpit, wearing a pilots hat, pressing buttons on the control panel. Many questions over how he had accessed the ramp, found and placed the air-stairs, etc.
Nothing mentioned about flight manuals.
DaveD