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BA A320. Onion bahjis smell.

Old 25th Nov 2019, 19:43
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BA A320. Onion bahjis smell.

This sounded really nasty with both pilots apparently becoming partially incapacitated on the approach to Paphos.

Accident: British Airways A320 at Paphos on Oct 19th 2019, fumes in cockpit, both pilots partially incapacitated
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 19:53
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The doctors recommended the flight crew to stay in hospital overnight for monitoring, however, the pilots preferred to go to the hotel and returned to London the next day as passengers, refusing to fly on the occurrence aircraft.
Refusing? As in BA insisting on them to pilot and not accepting a polite declining?
8-12 hours bottle to throttle is an accepted standard, how many hours BA expects for E.R. to throttle?
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:01
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Presumably the problem was rectified at Paphos, given that the aircraft operated a revenue service back to LGW and flew 8 sectors over the following two days.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:09
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BA are not having a great year with fume events
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:20
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complete paranoia as usual .........
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complete paranoia as usual .........
Oh, really? I take it you did your research about the impact of organophosphate compounds on the human central nervous system, didn‘t you.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 21:22
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was this a pre or post consumption Onion Bahjis smell
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 21:53
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2 Airlines in Hong Kong are having a bad time of it too. However, they are able to put fear and intimidation into crews not to take further and return to work.
Not HKA or HKE.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 22:01
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Originally Posted by AviatorDave View Post
Oh, really? I take it you did your research about the impact of organophosphate compounds on the human central nervous system, didn‘t you.

Where is the linkage in this incident to organophosphate compounds?
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What do you think aero engine oil is made from?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 00:19
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Originally Posted by Locked door View Post
What do you think aero engine oil is made from?
What makes you so sure it was an engine oil related event? There are a number of potential causes for fume events - engine oil is actually fairly low on the probability list (most are related to electrical or galley issues).
I've never heard of an engine oil related fume event described as a "Onion Bahjis" smell.
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Originally Posted by Locked door View Post
What do you think aero engine oil is made from?
Onions?..........
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 03:07
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50550735

Possibly they just don't like spices? Not unheard of.......

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Old 26th Nov 2019, 09:01
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
Onions?..........

Pickled Onions Shurely?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 14:40
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Joking aside. Two pilots temporarily incapacitated? If it's not hypoxia or food poisoning, what else could it be?
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Originally Posted by Kerosine View Post
Joking aside. Two pilots temporarily incapacitated? If it's not hypoxia or food poisoning, what else could it be?
Like the article mentioned maybe it was their fever?
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Originally Posted by misd-agin View Post
Like the article mentioned maybe it was their fever?
Fever is a high internal body temperature. A high body temp can be caused by many things.

This article specifically mentions organophosphate toxicity.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 16:07
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Was it just an ordinary Onion Bhajee, or was it an M&S Onion Bahjee?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 19:15
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Originally Posted by misd-agin View Post
Like the article mentioned maybe it was their fever?
That does not explain their low blood oxygen. Fever was most likely an effect (or unrelated), not the cause. With 100% oxygen from masks you need another factor preventing their blood from transporting oxygen. There are a lot of chemicals that could do that.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 19:17
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Originally Posted by blind pew View Post
If it is true that the hospital wanted them to stay in overnight, the pilots discharged themselves regardless, would it not be verging on criminal irresponsibility if the company decided that they should fly back without a full medical?.
As I read it they refused to fly back on the occurrence aircraft, meaning as passengers?
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