Atlas Air 767 accident 23 Feb 2019 - any news?
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Atlas Air 767 accident 23 Feb 2019 - any news?
The original thread on the crash has been closed for some time. This has all gone quiet without even Preliminary Cause. Anybody have any insight or additional information?
Thanks,
C2j
Thanks,
C2j
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Originally Posted by Cubs2jets
The original thread on the crash has been closed for some time. This has all gone quiet without even Preliminary Cause. Anybody have any insight or additional information?
Thanks,
C2j
Thanks,
C2j
https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Re...relim&IType=MA
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Originally Posted by filejw
NTSB doesn’t put out a Preliminary Cause but a short report does an did come out 30 days after the accident .
Quite right. Should not have said nothing was put out, and I used the wrong term. Should have said Preliminary Accident Report.
So. Now that that is sorted. Is there any news?
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Rumor reported here and elsewhere is that as in the FedEx 647 and UPS 1354 freighter crashes one of the Atlas 3591 pilots had an egregious training record which was presumably overlooked for human resources reasons. The FedEx 647 NTSB report did not recommend higher training standards, instead it mandated increased remedial training for people with weak flying skills. The UPS 1354 NTSB report acknowledged the captain's documented training performance deficiencies but did not issue additional recommendations for remediation or increased standards.
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one of the Atlas 3591 pilots had an egregious training record which was presumably overlooked for human resources reasons
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Originally Posted by fox niner
Do I need LPE level 7 to understand the NTSB’s motives, for their hesitation to publish a short, clear report in plain english? Or are there other sensitive issues?
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I'm sorry to be the tame Grinch, but my (very blunt and biased, because, full disclosure, I dislike both Amazon and Boeing) lines of thinking are as follows:
Line 1:
Jeff Bezos wants to launch drone delivery
Bezos's contractor crashed a plane
Bezos doesn't want negative publicity
NTSB's budget for 2018 was "over $100 million"
Bezos's personal income for 2018 was $32 billion
Boeing bought FAA
Bezos is haggling over the price of NTSB
Line 2:
Boeing has proven that it likes to cut corners
EgyptAir 990
Line 1:
Jeff Bezos wants to launch drone delivery
Bezos's contractor crashed a plane
Bezos doesn't want negative publicity
NTSB's budget for 2018 was "over $100 million"
Bezos's personal income for 2018 was $32 billion
Boeing bought FAA
Bezos is haggling over the price of NTSB
Line 2:
Boeing has proven that it likes to cut corners
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Originally Posted by UltraFan
I'm sorry to be the tame Grinch, but my (very blunt and biased, because, full disclosure, I dislike both Amazon and Boeing) lines of thinking are as follows:
Line 1:
Jeff Bezos wants to launch drone delivery
Bezos's contractor crashed a plane
Bezos doesn't want negative publicity
NTSB's budget for 2018 was "over $100 million"
Bezos's personal income for 2018 was $32 billion
Boeing bought FAA
Bezos is haggling over the price of NTSB
Line 2:
Boeing has proven that it likes to cut corners
EgyptAir 990
Line 1:
Jeff Bezos wants to launch drone delivery
Bezos's contractor crashed a plane
Bezos doesn't want negative publicity
NTSB's budget for 2018 was "over $100 million"
Bezos's personal income for 2018 was $32 billion
Boeing bought FAA
Bezos is haggling over the price of NTSB
Line 2:
Boeing has proven that it likes to cut corners
EgyptAir 990
glad you're not an investigator where your personal agenda would cloud any outcome, ignoring all evidence in the process...of course this is evidenced by your ridiculous post which has nothing to do with the accident
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Originally Posted by UltraFan
I'm sorry to be the tame Grinch, but my (very blunt and biased, because, full disclosure, I dislike both Amazon and Boeing) lines of thinking are as follows:
Line 1:
Jeff Bezos wants to launch drone delivery
Bezos's contractor crashed a plane
Bezos doesn't want negative publicity
NTSB's budget for 2018 was "over $100 million"
Bezos's personal income for 2018 was $32 billion
Boeing bought FAA
Bezos is haggling over the price of NTSB
Line 2:
Boeing has proven that it likes to cut corners
EgyptAir 990
Line 1:
Jeff Bezos wants to launch drone delivery
Bezos's contractor crashed a plane
Bezos doesn't want negative publicity
NTSB's budget for 2018 was "over $100 million"
Bezos's personal income for 2018 was $32 billion
Boeing bought FAA
Bezos is haggling over the price of NTSB
Line 2:
Boeing has proven that it likes to cut corners
EgyptAir 990
And the earth is flat 😉
