IcelandAir fires Boeing 737 Max Pilots
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Indeed. Ask any of your pals the name of the airline who's pilot that flew into the Alps a couple of years back. Nobody knows that I have asked.
Then ask them what that airline is called now! Same. Passengers have very short memories esp if names gets changed. DC10 became MD 11.
Ask them about the plane (737) lost with all lives at Amsterdam ten years ago on final approach. Which airline and why? Nobody even knows it happened and that is only down the road.
I think the 737 Max will be rebranded and I hope it has a long and safe future so that by the time it ends its life in about 25 years from now, say 2050, it will have been flying for nearly a century using the same airframe and lot of similar hardware that was on the 707.
I too feel sorry for those guys in Iceland. It is a cut throat business esp. in certain sectors of the business. I was lucky to have flown for the 35-40 happy years from the 707 to the 747-400 with a legacy airline (as they seem to be called) and some of it before LCC was a twinkle in someone's eye!
That said the LCCs did shake up the dinosaurs with benefits for all of us and for that I think we are all very grateful. BA / IAG this year made more money than its nearest LCC rival after a major shake up. So dinosaurs can indeed give birth to gazelles. They have crossed the aviation equivalent of the species barrier which the LCCs have always maintained cannot happen.
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Then ask them what that airline is called now! Same. Passengers have very short memories esp if names gets changed. DC10 became MD 11.
Ask them about the plane (737) lost with all lives at Amsterdam ten years ago on final approach. Which airline and why? Nobody even knows it happened and that is only down the road.
I think the 737 Max will be rebranded and I hope it has a long and safe future so that by the time it ends its life in about 25 years from now, say 2050, it will have been flying for nearly a century using the same airframe and lot of similar hardware that was on the 707.
I too feel sorry for those guys in Iceland. It is a cut throat business esp. in certain sectors of the business. I was lucky to have flown for the 35-40 happy years from the 707 to the 747-400 with a legacy airline (as they seem to be called) and some of it before LCC was a twinkle in someone's eye!
That said the LCCs did shake up the dinosaurs with benefits for all of us and for that I think we are all very grateful. BA / IAG this year made more money than its nearest LCC rival after a major shake up. So dinosaurs can indeed give birth to gazelles. They have crossed the aviation equivalent of the species barrier which the LCCs have always maintained cannot happen.
Cheers
Y
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So, to those who don't know the difference: being fired usually means that your employment is being terminated "for cause", meaning you ****** up and the company decided to punish you with termination. This usually happens only after you don't perform, or kick your manager in the face for example. If you have been fired, future employers will think twice before hiring you.
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"...would be terminating the pilots during a training session..."
Are they actually planning to fail the recurrent check so they have an excuse to fire the pilots?
Are they actually planning to fail the recurrent check so they have an excuse to fire the pilots?
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he's trying to say somebody is wrong, and to prove himself clever by correcting them...very irritating..in fact there is no "NG" type rating either...the rating as per Boeing and the FAA is B737, since that is who he quoted.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turk...es_Flight_1951 Nine dead including the three pilots.
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Icelandair made the announcement that it would be terminating 45 of its 737 MAX pilots during a training session.
or, put differently:
Icelandair made the announcement, that it would be terminating 45 of its 737 MAX pilots, during a training session.
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Yanrair, if you want to make a point, don't taint it with incorrect information. It only invalidates you as a reliable source in these forums. The great majority of passengers survived that accident in Amsrerdam.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turk...es_Flight_1951 Nine dead including the three pilots.
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actually interesting he brought that up, yet another single-point (Capts RADALT) systems failure that was endemic to the 737 for a time, causing the A/T system to go to "retard" mode too early when on approach, the Turks were unstable and didn't catch it...several other airlines managed to...ya think Boeing might have learned from a single-point failure there, but looks not to be the case
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As others have pointed out modern usage of fired has much different connotation than laid off.
In the USA at least in some states "termination for cause" (aka fired) can affect eligibility for unemployment benefits.
Needles to say that is a quagmire since employers unemployment insurance rates are determined in part by their lay off history so the sleazy ones will try anything to avoid the hit.