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Highest time airframe ever

Old 26th Apr 2019, 00:14
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I don't know about Jetstar, but Lufthansa itself is flying some pretty ancient A320s, some approaching 30 years old.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 09:45
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The ISS isn't technically an "airframe" but it's a manned craft in our skies and must have surely clocked up the most hours, having initially been launched on Nov 20th 1998 and hasn't landed yet.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 15:06
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The ISS isn't technically an "airframe" but it's a manned craft in our skies and must have surely clocked up the most hours, having initially been launched on Nov 20th 1998 and hasn't landed yet.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 15:17
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Originally Posted by tubby linton View Post
B757 G-MONB now N935FD has over 100000hours on the clock
Not quite. As of today 98981:32 FH and 35991 FC.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 15:23
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Originally Posted by Huck View Post
I flew 605 into SYD a few days before that. as I recall, about 90,000 total time on the maintenance log. I'm guessing it was the fifth freighter made, as 601 was the first (and I believe the first MD11 delivered).
605 is a youngster! 82,729 FH and 19893 FH. 624 & 631 are the high timers with 100K +. Interestingly 601 is only at 82737.
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Old 26th Apr 2019, 23:27
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I flew on DC-3 N136PB between Key West and Marathon Key Florida in the 1980s as a kid. Just me, my brother, the pilot, co-pilot and one air stewardess on board. We sat in the cockpit as they started up and were allowed to sit anywhere we liked for the flight. It's one of my best memories ever. The pilots were aware the it was the highest time airframe and delighted us with the notion that it broke a new record every time it flew (and so we broke a record!).

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Old 26th Apr 2019, 23:37
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Originally Posted by Supermattt View Post
I flew on DC-3 N136PB between Key West and Marathon Key Florida in the 1980s as a kid. Just me, my brother, the pilot, co-pilot and one air stewardess on board. We sat in the cockpit as they started up and were allowed to sit anywhere we liked for the flight. It's one of my best memories ever. The pilots were aware the it was the highest time airframe and delighted us with the notion that it broke a new record every time it flew (and so we broke a record!).

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As of 2013 it had 91,320. Pretty impressive for a DC-3.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 06:38
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Just shy of 142k hours would definitely put it in the running for high time - that's ~13.6 hours/day, every day, for 28.5 years.
Part of me thinks it would be somehow fitting that the high time aircraft would be the 747-400 that was nearly lost in a volcanic ash encounter when new.

Perhaps, someday, the high time aircraft will be one of those new-fangled carbon fiber 787s or A350s - carbon fiber doesn't fatigue the way aluminum does. But it'll be a couple decades before that can possibly happen.

142 thousand hours is the highest Ive heard, impressive, if I remember correctly after that volcanic ash encounter that aircraft required significant repairs, rework and general TLC to restore it to flight status


Perhaps that was a factor in its longevity, being brought back to a fairly new standard ?


Curious to know about the highest time DC8s as well, the re-engined CFM airframes went on a long, long time
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 08:45
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Upon some research I found out that one of the first A320 to fly (since 1989, still in service with Lufthansa) only has ~71000 h and ~57000 cycles. Amazing that a short haul aircraft doesn't rack up more hours.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 09:47
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Upon some research I found out that one of the first A320 to fly (since 1989, still in service with Lufthansa) only has ~71000 h and ~57000 cycles. Amazing that a short haul aircraft doesn't rack up more hours.
Lufti's batch of MSN 006x, 007x and 008x are fleet leaders by flight cycles but they are not even close to AirCanada early MSNs of 1989/90/91 YOM in term of flight hours - AC has a dozen of aircraft which hit or just about to hit 90.000 FH (and 37-38k FC).

What is kind of surprising on Airbus widebody side, the fleet leaders are 4x A340-300 of TAP Portugal with 110k FH each (CS-TOA/B/C/D). And one-off AirTransat A310 which made a bit more that that.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 10:08
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Wideroe's are currently updating their Dash 8-200 fleet to run them out to 120,000 cycles - this in an environment of 20-30 minute legs with frequent moderate to severe turbulence in the lower levels. These a/c fly the public service routes connecting the STOL ports along the rocky Norwegian coast!

https://www.bombardier.com/en/media/newsList/details.20190405Wideroe.bombardiercom.html?filter-bu=commercial-aircraft&f-year=all&f-month=all&f-type=all&show-by-page=50&page=1&f-min-year=2002
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 10:30
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Personally I would love to know the best guess of the highest R22 flight hours - real flight hours.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 10:37
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Perhaps, someday, the high time aircraft will be one of those new-fangled carbon fiber 787s or A350s - carbon fiber doesn't fatigue the way aluminum does. But it'll be a couple decades before that can possibly happen.
My understanding is that it's not the airframe itself that is the principal reason for retirement (and it not having any operational secondhand value), but all the fittings, the wiring especially, the control runs, the need for cabin refreshes, the IFE becoming outmoded, etc. This becomes cumulative over many of these items as time passes, and progressively impacts on dispatch reliability. It particularly applies where some of the hundreds of initial suppliers of these smaller components have gone out of business over the years, and spares and support for them becomes increasingly expensive or difficult.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 13:00
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
The ISS isn't technically an "airframe" but it's a manned craft in our skies and must have surely clocked up the most hours, having initially been launched on Nov 20th 1998 and hasn't landed yet.
I doubt it will ever 'land'. More like burning up in the atmosphere. At least most parts.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 17:24
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I seem to recall from around 30 years ago that a Braniff 747 was reported as clocking up flight hours faster than any other airframe, possibly around 20 hours per day, six days per week. Is my memory correct and does anyone recall what happened to it?
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 18:09
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Originally Posted by wondering View Post
I doubt it will ever 'land'. More like burning up in the atmosphere. At least most parts.
Yes, obviously.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 19:13
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Originally Posted by Dairyground View Post
I seem to recall from around 30 years ago that a Braniff 747 was reported as clocking up flight hours faster than any other airframe, possibly around 20 hours per day, six days per week. Is my memory correct and does anyone recall what happened to it?
Think that was l/n 100, N601BN which was last operated by Tower Air and scrapped in '93.

Info about its daily utilisation on this site.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 19:34
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In 2016, KLM's PH-BFD 135,900 hours Taken out of service in 2017 747-400
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 20:33
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In 2016, KLM's PH-BFD 135,900 hours Taken out of service in 2017 747-400
See post #52.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 21:32
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ISS will be around 180000 hours now, young compared to Voyager 1 at about 360000 hours.
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