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Klasjet incident Madrid

Old 9th Apr 2019, 07:57
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Klasjet incident Madrid

Lots of discussion now in Lithuanian media about the charter flight on 5 April MAD-KUN carrying a basketball team. Two(?) failed attempts to land at Madrid after some malfunction, finally landed at Getafe Airforce Base. Some more info here (but probably there was more to that): Incident: Klasjet B735 at Madrid on Apr 5th 2019, navigation malfunction

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Old 9th Apr 2019, 11:20
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I can't read METARs. Could someone please decypher them for those of "us" who don't print them out every day as part of a work day? What was the weather like in Madrid? Why couldn't they land there? Just losing navigation doesn't seem like a good enough reason to miss two approaches.

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Old 9th Apr 2019, 11:33
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Wet and windy, some rather strong showers and almost obscured sky.

One of the comments in the AVHerald's discussion, about entering the INIT coordinates wrongly to the IRS - E instead of W, brings memories of Fleet Office bulletins from days long gone.
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 18:58
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For our notapilot friends, here:
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 19:19
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Well, what prevented them from continuing raw data? Certainly, ATC could have coordinated VOR/NDB to VOR/NDB directs.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 23:23
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Could it be that they programmed E instead of W for the longitude on the POS INIT? It seems they lost all navigation and were flying on standby's and the compass, hence the repeated misalignment when returning to Madrid
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 03:05
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Originally Posted by ProPax View Post
I can't read METARs. Could someone please decypher them for those of "us" who don't print them out every day as part of a work day?
Option 1: Enter "How to decode METAR" into google.

Option 2: Post message on pilot's forum asking pilots to decode all METARS for you

Here you go
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...obile&ie=UTF-8

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Old 21st Apr 2019, 18:27
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On Apr 12th 2019 Spain's CIAIAC reported that during preflight preparations a fault with one of the aircraft's navigation systems had been spotted. An engineer and the crew reviewed the minimum equipment list (MEL) verifying that the aircraft was permitted to be dispatched with this equipment inoperative and released the aircraft under the related MEL requirements. During climb out a number of faults occurred also in the first officer's navigation systems prompting the crew to return to Madrid without the automatic navigation equipment available. Following two landing attempts which ended in go arounds due to adverse weather conditions the crew declared emergency and diverted the aircraft to Getafe Airforce Base for a safe landing.
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Children of the .... oh stop it Boggs!
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 11:05
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Didn't a Polish 73 take off from LHR a while back with IRSs either not aligned or misaligned and ended up landing back at LHR having meandered around the London TCA in a fairly random fashion?
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 11:34
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The navigation system mentioned in the article in could easily be IRS.

Flying 737 on stby horizon and magnetic compass while dodging CBs wouldn't be an easy day at work.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 11:57
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Originally Posted by mcdhu View Post
Didn't a Polish 73 take off from LHR a while back with IRSs either not aligned or misaligned and ended up landing back at LHR having meandered around the London TCA in a fairly random fashion?
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I have read much about this alleged incident but so far have not yet been able to find any actual articles referring to it?
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 12:56
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...tructions.html tells you a bit about it.

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LOT at Heathrow

And a bit more here: https://skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/626.pdf
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