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Frontier Airbus "blasted" engine...!?

Old 30th Nov 2018, 17:05
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Frontier Airbus "blasted" engine...!?

An amazing picture indeed...some hours ago between Tampa and Vegas

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Old 30th Nov 2018, 17:10
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Can't be good for the airflow
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 17:16
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Doesnt look as dramatic when on the ground. I think they just took delivery of this ac on Oct 29.....oops that is 2016, not 2018...

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Old 30th Nov 2018, 17:19
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It was Frontier 260 LAS-TPA with a nice view of Sloan Canyon.
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 17:20
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LAS VEGAS (KSNV) — A Frontier flight from Las Vegas to Tampa, Florida, had to return to the airport after an engine cover came off of the aircraft, according to an airline spokesperson.

Frontier Flight 260 took off from McCarran International Airport with a scheduled 7 a.m. departure time, but it had to return for an "engine concern," said Christine Crews with Clark County Aviation.

The flight landed back at McCarran just after 7:25 a.m. with no reports of injuries. Crews said 166 people were on board the plane, an Airbus A320.
Frontier's website listed the flight as canceled, with an originally scheduled arrival time of 2:17 EST at Tampa International Airport.
In a statement, Frontier said a cowling, or engine cover, came loose and pilots immediately returned to McCarran.

"The engine continued to operate normally and the aircraft, an Airbus 320, landed safely," the statement reads. "Safety is our top priority at Frontier Airlines and we would like to acknowledge the professionalism of our pilots and flight attendants. We are working to get our passengers to their destinations as quickly as possible.”
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 17:21
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A320 (CFM), first flight of the day after a nightstop ...

Airborne barely 15 minutes.

Oh dear.
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 18:37
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30 years of issues on both CEO engine types and still no re-design. Hopefully its different on the NEO?
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Are those witness marks on the leading edge of the sharklet? Or is it simply a reflection or part of the paint scheme?
I wouldn't expect engine bits to get that far outboard, but sometimes the airflow does funny things.
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 19:01
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Are those witness marks on the leading edge of the sharklet? Or is it simply a reflection or part of the paint scheme?
I wouldn't expect engine bits to get that far outboard, but sometimes the airflow does funny things.
Looks like a pic of a BROWN BEAR - either part of a paint scheme on body or on sharklet - unless it was a reflection of a "passenger " looking out a window

lower " mark" appears to be a nav light

upper paint leading edge on sharklet may just be ' wear' under magnification

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Old 30th Nov 2018, 19:10
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Say "hi" to Grizwald the bear.

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Old 30th Nov 2018, 19:16
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A wee bit different from the usual fan cowl issues, in as much as the two reverser C-ducts have lifted......
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 19:41
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A wee bit different from the usual fan cowl issues, in as much as the two reverser C-ducts have lifted......
The fan cowl door on the CFM56 overlaps the thrust reverser door by an inch or two, so if it was the reverser doors that opened first they would likely take the fan cowl doors with them.
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Either way its a double dose of carelessness, once by mtce not securing it properly and again by the crew not checking properly during the walkaround. These incidents keep happening despite regular warnings to inspect the fixings before flight.
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 20:25
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A320's have a long history of this....how long before it causes fatalities?
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 21:03
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
The fan cowl door on the CFM56 overlaps the thrust reverser door by an inch or two, so if it was the reverser doors that opened first they would likely take the fan cowl doors with them.
Aye, they do. God knows Iíve opened, and shut properly, a few. I doubt this time the C-ducts were not latched, canít tell from the pictures if the fan was or not. Guessing from the lack of fan cowl bottoms, probably was latched.
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Originally Posted by clarkieboy View Post
A wee bit different from the usual fan cowl issues, in as much as the two reverser C-ducts have lifted......
A far more serious event with a lot more drag and no fire suppression
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Doesnt look as dramatic when on the ground. I think they just took delivery of this ac on Oct 29.....oops that is 2016, not 2018...
Grizwald was delivered October of 2014 . . .


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Old 30th Nov 2018, 21:28
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Originally Posted by clarkieboy View Post
I doubt this time the C-ducts were not latched, canít tell from the pictures if the fan was or not. Guessing from the lack of fan cowl bottoms, probably was latched.
So if both the reverser doors and fan cowls were correctly latched, WTF happened ?
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
So if both the reverser doors and fan cowls were correctly latched, WTF happened ?
Sorry, my bad English. Just remembered why I read but donít write.
In my humble opinion the C-ducts were not latched correctly, and I am not sure if the fan cowls were. However, if I was to venture a guess, I think they were latched correctly. This is only my opinion, and purely based on working on 320s for 20 years. Back to reading for Iain.
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Did they land with slats extended or retracted?
Seems like the damage would interfere with the extended slats.
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