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Peruvian Airlines 737 skids of rwy La Paz El Alto

Old 23rd Nov 2018, 09:51
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Peruvian Airlines 737 skids of rwy La Paz El Alto

November, 22nd, 2018 Flight from Cuzco to La Paz, PoB 2+3+122. Skids off runway on landing. No injuries. Airport closed for a few hours. Crane used to lift the plane. Pilots did not issue any warning before landing.
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 10:16
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What kind of warning would you expect?
You think they planned to overshoot, or would make an announcement whilst trying wrestle the a/c to a stop?
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 10:23
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What kind of warning would you expect?
You think they planned to overshoot, or would make an announcement whilst trying wrestle the a/c to a stop?
Hydraulics. Braking, steering issues. That kind of thing.....
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Appears to be an ELP issue. I am sure he is level 6.
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Pilots did not issue any warning before landing.
.. was the exact text used in the earliest reporting. Little more information at that time. .. To me that suggested there were no previous issues that triggered either an ATC or cabin warning before landing, no more no less. To me your remark suggests you have factual information that issues only came up after TD?, if so, it would be interesting to share that information.
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.. was the exact text used in the earliest reporting. Little more information at that time. .. To me that suggested there were no previous issues that triggered either an ATC or cabin warning before landing, no more no less. To me your remark suggests you have factual information that issues only came up after TD?, if so, it would be interesting to share that information.
Ahh if your original post was taken from a report then its best to put it in quotes, otherwise it seems like your words.
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Deja vu anyone..???

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JanetFlight, worth clarifying that the video you posted refers to the Peruvian Airlines 737 runway departure and subsequent fire while landing at Jauja on 26 March 2017.
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I would like to see a chronologically ordered list of all runway excursions for the last decade.
From poking ones nose into the grass, to a high speed over run. The whole lot.
Does any organisation collate this data? Flight Safety Foundation? ICAO?
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I bet You good money Boeing is King on that one, with the 737 the ultimate winner!
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The AvHerald thread on this accident has a post by someone who says he/she was a passenger on the flight, and who comments that the landing at El Alto was relatively smooth. For what it's worth, on a Peruvian news site, elcomercio.com.pe, a Lima > La Paz passenger says the en-route landing at Cuzco was very hard. Would it be reasonable to begin looking at main gear shimmy and collapse as a possible/probable cause?
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Originally Posted by broadreach
JanetFlight, worth clarifying that the video you posted refers to the Peruvian Airlines 737 runway departure and subsequent fire while landing at Jauja on 26 March 2017.
Hence the reason i called it "Deja vu"
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Originally Posted by 73qanda
I would like to see a chronologically ordered list of all runway excursions for the last decade.
From poking ones nose into the grass, to a high speed over run. The whole lot.
Does any organisation collate this data? Flight Safety Foundation? ICAO?
Here's one: https://aviation-safety.net/database...nt.php?code=LT

Does require some "mental filtering" to figure out the exact outcome. Accident vs. incident, conditions, operator quality, etc.

BTW (speaking of "by a nose") - just yesterday: Incident: Garuda B738 at Yogyakarta on Nov 25th 2018, overran runway on landing
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Originally Posted by 73qanda
I would like to see a chronologically ordered list of all runway excursions for the last decade.
From poking ones nose into the grass, to a high speed over run. The whole lot.
Does any organisation collate this data? Flight Safety Foundation? ICAO?
EASA did a big study on this, probably what you want, not a global study, but they do benchmark Europe against the ROW and I'm sure the references will give a suitable point of departure: Runway Excursions study: European perspective.
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