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Old 30th Oct 2018, 15:09
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What is your problem ?
Why do you criticise RR when all of the engine manufacturers are having similar issues ?
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Originally Posted by The Ancient Geek
What is your problem ?
Why do you criticise RR when all of the engine manufacturers are having similar issues ?
I wasn't criticizing. Just news. They've had some significant headaches with in-service models and now some additional mfg delays. Why do you take it so personally?
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I think he's just noticed that all your engine related posts bar one are criticising RR and only one is about GE issues.

There are plenty of GE related 'significant issues' but you've not spotted them, which seems strange.
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The Brits are getting a tad defensive.
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Originally Posted by GrahamO
I think he's just noticed that all your engine related posts bar one are criticising RR and only one is about GE issues.<br /><br />There are plenty of GE related 'significant issues' but you've not spotted them, which seems strange.
Probably because the news sources I follow have covered RR issues more? Maybe because recently they have had more issues?

I love you blokes who get religious about things like where engine manufacturers are based. I could care less as long as it’s safe and performs. You’re the ones who read in to it and see some nationalist intention.
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As a previous Director of one of the 3 world leading companies I would say the one thing none us ever did when a competitor engine had a delivery or in service issue, was to criticise publicly. What goes around et

The problem for all the manufacturers is that airframe makers want "new" engines quickly and cost effectively brought to market - particularly in either Boeing or Airbus. Inevitably that leads to delays, in service issues but NOT safety short cuts.
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The whole engine supply chain is creaking under the pressure of demand.. All OEM's are fighting for shares with Partners and suppliers, costs are under severe pressure, sourcing strategy is driven toward China and India.. Quality? Rate production? Raw material supply.. it goes on and on.. And ALL of the manufacturers are feeling the heat.
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Further, there is now less diversification of supply. Back 20-30 years ago, each plane model could be fitted with engines from 2 or 3 suppliers (RR, GE, P&W). But now, we see 2 alternatives for a particular frame at the most, and many with just 1. This means that a single supplier's problems now have proportionately larger effects on the plane's program.
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Further, there is now less diversification of supply. Back 20-30 years ago, each plane model could be fitted with engines from 2 or 3 suppliers (RR, GE, P&W). But now, we see 2 alternatives for a particular frame at the most, and many with just 1. This means that a single supplier's problems now have proportionately larger effects on the plane's program.
Indeed.
Rolls like so many other manufacturers operate with very little inventory. When things are going well there are few problems but it doesn't take much for things to go wrong.

Just look at the potential chaos the motor manufacturers are having to deal with as a result of the dreaded B word.
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