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Old 21st Oct 2018, 08:34
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oooops, 747 ground damage

Parking a 747

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A very expensive Specsaver commercial?
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 13:29
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I wonder what the insurance company will say to the tug driver.....?
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Where were the guys/gals checking for clearance/obstacles, surely the tug driver shouldn't have been positioning an aircraft onto stand without extra eyes keeping watch for incidents just such as this?

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Old 21st Oct 2018, 14:39
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Originally Posted by Rhino power
Where were the guys/gals checking for clearance/obstacles, surely the tug driver shouldn't have been positioning an aircraft onto stand without extra eyes keeping watch for incidents just such as this?

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Having batmen around when entering or exiting a stand is far from mandatory in all places. Ask me to do you a risk analysis of single-man towing, and I'll make it look just fine for the authorities and airline to approve, proving the risk is equal to that of a multi-person operation given the introduction of certain procedures. .And when the inevitable happens, the beancounters will say was still cheaper than the manpower which would otherwise have been spent, and the investigation will probably tell the accident would have happened regardless of whether a bloke with a wand was flapping his arms around or not.
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The speed suggests complacency and over familiarity.

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Was the ground equipment in its designated area?
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 23:21
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Was the ground equipment in its designated area?
Obviously not --- a constant problem at EGLL, trying to make sure everything is behind the yellow lines as you taxi in.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 00:47
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Looking at the speed, I thought the video had been speeded up to run more quickly, rather than the tug was going that fast.
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From my own experience the tugs that tuck in under the nose gear and lift the front of the aircraft clear of the ground do taxi faster than tugs using a tow bar, FRA was a classic case.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 08:58
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Reports suggest that the incident took place 15/10 on one of the Romeo (cargo) stands, most likely R72 judging by the video, where the 747 was being towed - presumably just for parking, as it wasn't one of KLM's Combis.



It doesn't look like stand housekeeping has a high priority at Schiphol.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 09:58
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Some rather painful footage of the loader being disentangled from the engine:



Memo to DNATA staff: Do Not Ambush Towed Aircraft.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 11:38
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Is there likely damage to the engine itself, or just the nacelle/inlet? Obviously the engine will get a full inspection/borescope either way. What requirements are there on the airframe, if any? Since damage seems limited to the engine pod, I assume that they can "just" do an engine swap to get the aircraft serviceable again, as I can't imagine that's done any damage to the wing or pylon. (But maybe I'd be surprised.)
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 11:49
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Suspect the pylon fuse pins will need looking at or replacing since you don't know how much force they took.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 11:58
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Whatever they had to do is already done. The incident happened last Monday. The aircraft was back in service on Friday.
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It does look like the Towbarless tractor (TBL) is going faster than the speed for that weight of aircraft being 24/25Kph.

However, the Lower Deck Loader at 15,000 kgs with stabilisers all down, on this occasion - wins.

No doubt whoever parked the deck loader and the TBL driver will both have a lot to answer for.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 12:56
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Unfortunate airplane,
Same as this one https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=379989
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 21:16
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Airplane was released to service after an engine change..
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Airplane was released to service after an engine change..
The engine and it's Pylon may be OK as-is but they probably just grabbed one that already had an inlet cowl mounted. I can't tell from the video if the reversers are OK, but the fan cowl was probably toast.
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