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Delta A220 first flight

Old 7th Oct 2018, 12:56
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Delta A220 first flight

"Delta Air Lines’ first A220-100 took off on its first flight from Mirabel airport, Québec, at 02:02 p.m. local time. The aircraft was crewed by A220 programme test pilots. During successful 2 hour and 53 minutes flight, the crew checked the aircraft’s main systems and landed back in Mirabel at 04:55 p.m.

The flight took place a few days after the aircraft rolled out of the paint shop. Next, the aircraft will continue with pre-delivery testing and assembly, as elements of its state-of-the-art interior come together at the A220 assembly line. Delta’s first A220 is scheduled to begin service in early 2019."


ummmmm..no interior?



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They are still trying to figure out how many seats to put in. The more the better. For the bottom line, that is.
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ahhh, after Boeings interior supply issues, was wondering if that was similar.
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"ummmmm..no interior?"

Pre-delivery testing the A/C would be filled with equipment required for testing.
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It has been scientifically proven that an aircraft only requires an exterior in order to be able to fly ...
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Originally Posted by IBMJunkman View Post
They are still trying to figure out how many seats to put in. The more the better. For the bottom line, that is.
They have planned 107 seats from just after the order was announced.
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Originally Posted by hunbet View Post
"ummmmm..no interior?"
Pre-delivery testing the A/C would be filled with equipment required for testing.
Not likely. Once in production, there is no test equipment installed in an airplane. Such equipment is only installed for certification testing.

OTOH, in many cases the airplane is delivered without the interior installed, as with the new deal Boeing has with China. They have their own paint and finishing plant, where they will install the interior.
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Old 14th Oct 2018, 18:08
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Delay A220 just did test flight int Tampa intl Rw10. Nice looking bird trailing the cone
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Anyone know what pitch that would be to achieve 107 seats???
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Originally Posted by Intruder View Post
Not likely. Once in production, there is no significant test equipment installed in an airplane. Such equipment is only installed for certification testing.

OTOH, in many cases the airplane is delivered without the interior installed, as with the new deal Boeing has with China. They have their own paint and finishing plant, where they will install the interior.
A minor change added to your statement - there can sometimes be a need to fit some kind of extra recording device or break-in box or similar to facilitate production testing (although these days its more likely to be a "production test flight" option in software, somewhere, perhaps accessed via some kind of "cheat code"). But I'd agree that any such requirement wouldn't interfere with any kind of interior installation
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Anyone know what pitch that would be to achieve 107 seats???
Not sure exactly. Heard 40 in first. 34 in Economy comfort and 31 in straight coach. Slimline seats should make the 31 equal to just over 32 if the seats were conventional.
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Anyone know what pitch that would be to achieve 107 seats???
There is only one current CS100/A220-100 operator - Swiss - and the Seatguru website rather unhelpfully quotes their seat pitch as "30-32 inches",with 125 seats in 25 5-abreast rows.

Delta's 107 seats could suggest perhaps 3 four-abreast rows up front plus 19 5-abreast rows, i.e. 22 rows in total (other suggestions are available). Three fewer rows would provide around 90 inches of extra pitch to be distributed over the F and PE (and possibly even Y) rows.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 21:47
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Things are looking rosy! Considering a year ago we were all rather wondering whether BBD would survive the tariffs Boeing lobbied for, here we all are anxiously wondering what Delta's cabin config will be, and it's called the A220.

Presumably now that Delta's is beginning to fly, they're going to get a good handle on just what it can do for them, see if the numbers are what BBD / Airbus said. If so, they're probably looking forward to some sort of price advantage in the ticket selling business, which must be giving their marketing people a happy feeling of anticipation. It has to be dead easy to sell tickets if you can undercut the opposition without denting net revenue, especially as there's a prospect that passenger feedback will be good too.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
It has been scientifically proven that an aircraft only requires an exterior in order to be able to fly ...
Fuel in the interior of the wing tends to improve performance.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
There is only one current CS100/A220-100 operator - Swiss - and the Seatguru website rather unhelpfully quotes their seat pitch as "30-32 inches",with 125 seats in 25 5-abreast rows.

Delta's 107 seats could suggest perhaps 3 four-abreast rows up front plus 19 5-abreast rows, i.e. 22 rows in total (other suggestions are available). Three fewer rows would provide around 90 inches of extra pitch to be distributed over the F and PE (and possibly even Y) rows.
Air Baltic has a dozen A220 (CS300) in their fleet since 2016. In 2016 orders from Delta offered a real lifeline, I guess. In the US, as another future A220 operator, JetBlue ordered 60 A220-300s.
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Just saw one taxi to the gate at DAB, N101DU.

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Old 18th Nov 2018, 18:39
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Delta's 107 seats could suggest perhaps 3 four-abreast rows up front plus 19 5-abreast rows, i.e. 22 rows in total (other suggestions are available). Three fewer rows would provide around 90 inches of extra pitch to be distributed over the F and PE (and possibly even Y) rows.
Seatguru has been updated with the DL CS1 configuration, which actually shows 109 rather than 107 seats.

Layout is as described above, plus an extra triple at the rear and a double instead of triple at the RH overwing emergency exit. F class pitch is 36" and PE 34".
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Old 19th Nov 2018, 17:48
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Video of that flight, with ATC.

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Fixed the picture problem

Here it is at DAB Nov 18th. Good looking aircraft in person (sorry for missing the front).
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Is it just me or does the nose have to look of the Caravelle, but cleaned up?
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