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KLM Pilot jailed in Norway for alcohol intake on night stop

Old 27th May 2018, 02:33
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KLM Pilot jailed in Norway for alcohol intake on night stop

Deemed a flight risk (!) he was sentenced to 2 weeks in the slammer.
Results of the blood sample not official yet.
Link to Norwegian news blurb:

https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/...slet-i-to-uker
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Old 27th May 2018, 03:54
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Originally Posted by TowerDog View Post
Deemed a flight risk (!) he was sentenced to 2 weeks in the slammer.
Results of the blood sample not official yet.
He was not sentenced to anything. He is being jailed awaiting trial.
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Old 27th May 2018, 03:55
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Also the news article while not saying exactly how much over the limit he was, they say it was low, meaning he most likely wasnt "impaired" and the only reason he got caught was due to the random testing.
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Originally Posted by auroraborealis90 View Post
He was not sentenced to anything. He is being jailed awaiting trial.
Sentence:
the punishment assigned to a defendant found guilty by a court, or fixed by law for a particular offense.
"her husband is serving a three-year sentence for fraud"synonyms:judgment, ruling, decision, verdict, punishment More
Whatever you want to call it, somebody made a decision to put him in a jail cell.
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Old 27th May 2018, 05:05
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'Remanded in custody' is the term you're looking for.
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Old 27th May 2018, 05:56
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Pretty standard if you are caught driving over the limit (which is VERY low) in Norway - you can be put in jail , you lose your licence instantly and THEN they have a trial

You're guilty - its only the final sentence they delay

Also random road blocks are not uncommon in the morning to test people on their way to work after a hard night before......

I was always told you were running a risk after about 1/4 pint or 200 ml of beer......................
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Old 27th May 2018, 06:08
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I could never understand why you would want to drink in Norway anyway.

it's extremely well known how low the limit is. It's extremely expensive. And the single beer I have had there was pretty horrible and the local that bought me it said it was their best brew.

​​​​​​Surely every pilot must know that if they have a single beer and they are known to be a pilot they will be reported by the bar staff.

A norgie to i used to fly with who was into body building told me that he would be over the limit if he went to the gym before work due anaerobic respiration, how true that is I don't have a clue.
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Old 27th May 2018, 06:53
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KLM Pilot jailed in Norway for alcohol intake on night stop

Latest news: 2699 KLM pilots not jailed for alcohol intake.
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Old 27th May 2018, 07:37
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Basically less than a breathaliser can measure which is why it takes so long for them to process you. The test they have to use to get a reading off your b!ood takes 3 days it's works by evaporation I think.

The limit according to the fo is basically just enough to cover the normal range of alcohol produced naturally in your body during normal living. If you hammer the gym anaerobic muscle burning exercises you can get over the limit naturally. Apparently if you do that you get a monitored training session and if you can't match or beat your level your in deep poo. But it takes weeks to sort out and your remanded for that period if your a pilot.

The normal way to get into trouble is by bar staff reporting you. Then as seems to have happened here they arrest and then test which takes 3 days. If the person say had one small glass of very expensive crap wine with a meal at say 7pm at night gets reported and reports at 7pm the next day they will be down to normal. But you will still get arrested because the bar staff have reported you.

So the limit is basically zero. Get spotted drinking something with alcohol and you will get processed and it will take time.
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Old 27th May 2018, 08:29
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry View Post
Also random road blocks are not uncommon in the morning to test people on their way to work after a hard night before.......
Same in NZ
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Old 27th May 2018, 09:09
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" I could never understand why you would want to drink in Norway anyway. "

Wellllll.. those long dark nights .... but the cost is horrendous and if you DO drink make sure you allow enough time to get under the limit

I always found car hire firms were more than happy to deliver you car the next day in town for example than risk things if you had a beverage on the incoming flight

Norwegians do designated driver all the time
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Old 27th May 2018, 09:38
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As I have said before, there is a world of difference between being over a very strict limit and being impaired. Of course I'm not party to the results in this particular case, but I would be very surprised if the crew member involved was anywhere remotely close to being impaired.
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Old 27th May 2018, 09:46
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Enjoy your time in the clink then.

It's the social norm to report, you can try taking legal action if you like.....As for changing hotel... If the company is paying for it They will know. I suppose you could book your self and pay for it yourself change out of uniform before you arrive and leave in civi clothes and not mention what you do.

I don't drink down route anyway. Their country, their rules, same as Saudi. Nicer jails I suspect but I really don't fancy trying to prove a point. Even if it turns out after 3 days I was legal to fly.
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Old 27th May 2018, 09:50
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Impaired? maybe not

Illegal?? almost certainly

That's the problem withe Feds wherever you are - they have this habit of enforcing the law................
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Old 27th May 2018, 09:51
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Norway. No Way. Thanks for the tip.
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Old 27th May 2018, 10:06
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So, in Norway, don’t drink on overnights and don’t work out! Check!!
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Old 27th May 2018, 10:27
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By the look of the fo and the workouts he used to do I think a normal person going to the gym doing an hour on the cardio machines is not going to be an issue. It's the muscle burning body building stuff for hours going from stupid weights down to struggling to lift a bag of sugar at the end of it that will do it.

. From the look of him after one of those workouts he wasn't fit to fly anyway his coordination was shot to hell and he had the strength of a stick of celery and struggled walking in a straight line. He did those strong man competitions lifting boulders flipping tyres etc.
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Old 27th May 2018, 10:44
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According the police spokesperson in the news article, "it was low but over the limit". Translation google.

​​​Given that that limit in Norway is very low, any report of "drunk pilot" or 'innebriated pilot" is ludicrous. Was he illegal? According their rules, yes. Lets just wait with the judgements until their judge rules.
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Old 27th May 2018, 10:49
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I'm astonished he didn't know the rules and risks - it's the second thing anyone tells you about the place

the first thing is the COST of a drink....................
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Old 27th May 2018, 11:04
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Undoubtably he knows the risk. KLM is very clear and active on alcohol rules to their crews.
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