Jet Airways pilot has licence suspended after “assaulting” another pilot on London-M
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Jet grounds two senior pilots for fighting in cockpit of London-Mumbai flight
NEW DELHI: Jet Airways has grounded two of its senior commanders for fighting inside the cockpit of a London-Mumbai flight on January 1.
The commander flying as co-pilot allegedly slapped the lady commander mid-flight after which she left the cockpit in tears.
After great persuation, the lady pilot went back to the cockpit but reportedly came out in a huff shortly afterwards. This time, a frightened cabin crew, fearing for everyone's safety, requested her to go back to the controls and operate the flight to its destination. Luckily, the plane landed safely.
The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) has suspended the licence of the male co-pilot and ordered a probe into the entire episode.
This unprecedented cockpit fight happened on 9W 119 soon after Jet's Boeing 777 took off for its 9-hour journey to Mumbai with 324 passengers and 14 crew members on board on New Year's Day at 10am (UK time).
Both the pilots of this flight were commanders and the lady was captaining 9W 119 while the other was the co-pilot for this sector.
"Shortly after the plane took off, the two pilots had a fight. The co-pilot slapped the lady commander and she left the cockpit in tears. She stood in the galley sobbing. The cabin crew tried to comfort her and send her back to the cockpit, but in vain. The co-pilot also kept buzzing (calling from the intercom in the cockpit) the crew, asking them to send the second pilot back," said sources.
When the cabin crew could not do so, the co-pilot reportedly came out of the cockpit — leaving the cockpit unmanned in gross violation of safety rules — and persuaded the commander to return with him to the controls.
"However, they had a fight for the second time following which she came out again. This time, the cabin crew was quite afraid of the fight happening in the cockpit. They requested her to go to the cockpit and fly the plane safely to its destination," said sources. Realising the fear factor among everyone, she returned to the cockpit and the plane landed safely in Mumbai just after midnight of January 1-2.
Confirming this fight, a Jet Airways spokesman said: "A misunderstanding occurred between the cockpit crew of Jet Airways flight 9W 119, London - Mumbai of January 01, 2018. However, the same was quickly resolved amicably and the flight with 324 guests including 2 infants and 14 crew continued its journey to Mumbai, landing safely. The airline has reported the incident to the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) and the concerned crew have been derostered pending an internal investigation that has since been initiated. At Jet Airways, safety of guests, crew and assets is of paramount importance and the airline has zero tolerance for any action of its employees that compromises safety."'
Terming this a "serious issue", DGCA chief BS Bhullar told TOI: "We have ordered an investigation into this and have suspended the privileges of co-pilot's license pending the probe."
The commander flying as co-pilot allegedly slapped the lady commander mid-flight after which she left the cockpit in tears.
After great persuation, the lady pilot went back to the cockpit but reportedly came out in a huff shortly afterwards. This time, a frightened cabin crew, fearing for everyone's safety, requested her to go back to the controls and operate the flight to its destination. Luckily, the plane landed safely.
The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) has suspended the licence of the male co-pilot and ordered a probe into the entire episode.
This unprecedented cockpit fight happened on 9W 119 soon after Jet's Boeing 777 took off for its 9-hour journey to Mumbai with 324 passengers and 14 crew members on board on New Year's Day at 10am (UK time).
Both the pilots of this flight were commanders and the lady was captaining 9W 119 while the other was the co-pilot for this sector.
"Shortly after the plane took off, the two pilots had a fight. The co-pilot slapped the lady commander and she left the cockpit in tears. She stood in the galley sobbing. The cabin crew tried to comfort her and send her back to the cockpit, but in vain. The co-pilot also kept buzzing (calling from the intercom in the cockpit) the crew, asking them to send the second pilot back," said sources.
When the cabin crew could not do so, the co-pilot reportedly came out of the cockpit — leaving the cockpit unmanned in gross violation of safety rules — and persuaded the commander to return with him to the controls.
"However, they had a fight for the second time following which she came out again. This time, the cabin crew was quite afraid of the fight happening in the cockpit. They requested her to go to the cockpit and fly the plane safely to its destination," said sources. Realising the fear factor among everyone, she returned to the cockpit and the plane landed safely in Mumbai just after midnight of January 1-2.
Confirming this fight, a Jet Airways spokesman said: "A misunderstanding occurred between the cockpit crew of Jet Airways flight 9W 119, London - Mumbai of January 01, 2018. However, the same was quickly resolved amicably and the flight with 324 guests including 2 infants and 14 crew continued its journey to Mumbai, landing safely. The airline has reported the incident to the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) and the concerned crew have been derostered pending an internal investigation that has since been initiated. At Jet Airways, safety of guests, crew and assets is of paramount importance and the airline has zero tolerance for any action of its employees that compromises safety."'
Terming this a "serious issue", DGCA chief BS Bhullar told TOI: "We have ordered an investigation into this and have suspended the privileges of co-pilot's license pending the probe."
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Jet Airways pilot has licence suspended after “assaulting” another pilot on London-M
Quite an extraordinary occurence on LHR-BOM flight.
Alleged assault and flight absent of pilot and co-pilot in cockpit for some minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ht-jet-airways
Alleged assault and flight absent of pilot and co-pilot in cockpit for some minutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ht-jet-airways
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The Jet Airways crew, reported to be in a relationship ...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/t...-a3731626.html
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/t...-a3731626.html
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Aircraft flies on autopilot until fuel exahaustion and crashes?
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I would hope that there will be two extra pilot vacancies advertised immediatedly for Jet Airways if the alleged events occurred.
To have an aircraft sans pilot and co-pilot for any amount of time is unforgivable.
To have an aircraft sans pilot and co-pilot for any amount of time is unforgivable.
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Not a first for an Indian airline.
This happened two years ago on an Air India flightdeck.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ockpit-dispute
This happened two years ago on an Air India flightdeck.
The captain and first officer came to blows in the cockpit as they were preparing the passenger plane for departure from the Rajasthan city of Jaipur to Delhi on Sunday night.
The first officer was irritated by his superior’s request to write down critical information for the flight, such as the number of passengers on board, takeoff weight and fuel uptake, the Times of India reported.
“The co-pilot took offence at this and reportedly beat up the captain,” the newspaper said, quoting unnamed sources. “In the larger interest of the airline, the commander decided to go ahead with the flight and flew to Delhi,” the paper added.
The first officer was irritated by his superior’s request to write down critical information for the flight, such as the number of passengers on board, takeoff weight and fuel uptake, the Times of India reported.
“The co-pilot took offence at this and reportedly beat up the captain,” the newspaper said, quoting unnamed sources. “In the larger interest of the airline, the commander decided to go ahead with the flight and flew to Delhi,” the paper added.
CHENNAI: A Chennai-Delhi Air India flight was delayed by more than two hours after pilot and aircraft engineer had a difference of opinion which ended up in a fight inside the cockpit on Saturday. The aircraft engineer was injured and was admitted to a private hospital while the pilot Captain Manik Lal has been grounded till investigations are completed.
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While I am not aware of the details of this incident or the exact story behind it, this is a good example of the “role of emotions” in aviation safety. This incident went to extremes, but it is worth remembering that every decision is influenced by emotions and it is possible to learn in this area. It also indicates the need to develop “emotional resilience” among aviation professionals and to take the Crew Resource Management (CRM) and Human Factors training to the next level by including deeper learning in “emotional literacy”.
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Last Jet Airways Pilot suspended was CP Bernd Hoesslin and it was for no good reason!
Remember that alleged "racist... woman abusing Expat Captain" who worked for Jet Airways last Spring?
Bashed to hell by the Internet all over the World last April?
He was also grounded and then let go a month later.
Sounds similar to this Couple?
However it turns out it was an unruly pax Pooja Singh who spread falsehoods about what really happened on that flight.
So let us wait and see what Jet reports on this?
Oddly Bernd Hoesslin, aka Bernd von Hoesslin also filed a DGCA report on he and it was never investigated by them.
He had to sue Jet Airways to get a copy of their "investigation" which iso. of a Flight Safety issue, they made a Commercial one and gave him from what I've read, over 7 months later.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/62089931.cms
So I doubt Jet will really give out the truth 100%, nor will the DGCA properly investigate looking at their track record.
I see that CP Bernd Hoesslin has an active lawsuit against Pooja and the Cricktman for Defamation - $15 Million. Good luck, he seems to deserve it!
Oh, by the way CP Bernd Hoesslin was finally found no guilty of anything except for following Jets and and the DGCA rules.
No racists comments or abuse of anyone except by this Indian woman towards him and his crew.
Civil aviation minister Ashok Gajapati Raju told parliament on Thursday the government would investigate the incident. “Action will be taken according to regulations and no one will be spared,” he said...
Odd now he's getting his Butt into gear when the safety of the flying public was jeopardized by Pooja Singh who connected a battery operated wheelchair in the forward galley while refueling was taking place with over 100 people on a B738 that April 3rd in Mumbai, then refused to move the wheelchair when asked.
She then argued, became abusive with this CP Bernd when he challenged her about the flight safety merits of this action of hers.
Twisted the facts, used the Internet to screw this guy.
Hmmm what power do Unruly Pax seem to have?
Jet should have had her arrested and filed a police complaint that April 3rd, they never did.
So much for employee support?
So let us see where this goes?
Jet will most likely cover it up from their track record!
Bashed to hell by the Internet all over the World last April?
He was also grounded and then let go a month later.
Sounds similar to this Couple?
However it turns out it was an unruly pax Pooja Singh who spread falsehoods about what really happened on that flight.
So let us wait and see what Jet reports on this?
Oddly Bernd Hoesslin, aka Bernd von Hoesslin also filed a DGCA report on he and it was never investigated by them.
He had to sue Jet Airways to get a copy of their "investigation" which iso. of a Flight Safety issue, they made a Commercial one and gave him from what I've read, over 7 months later.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/62089931.cms
So I doubt Jet will really give out the truth 100%, nor will the DGCA properly investigate looking at their track record.
I see that CP Bernd Hoesslin has an active lawsuit against Pooja and the Cricktman for Defamation - $15 Million. Good luck, he seems to deserve it!
Oh, by the way CP Bernd Hoesslin was finally found no guilty of anything except for following Jets and and the DGCA rules.
No racists comments or abuse of anyone except by this Indian woman towards him and his crew.
Civil aviation minister Ashok Gajapati Raju told parliament on Thursday the government would investigate the incident. “Action will be taken according to regulations and no one will be spared,” he said...
Odd now he's getting his Butt into gear when the safety of the flying public was jeopardized by Pooja Singh who connected a battery operated wheelchair in the forward galley while refueling was taking place with over 100 people on a B738 that April 3rd in Mumbai, then refused to move the wheelchair when asked.
She then argued, became abusive with this CP Bernd when he challenged her about the flight safety merits of this action of hers.
Twisted the facts, used the Internet to screw this guy.
Hmmm what power do Unruly Pax seem to have?
Jet should have had her arrested and filed a police complaint that April 3rd, they never did.
So much for employee support?
So let us see where this goes?
Jet will most likely cover it up from their track record!
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The statement from Jet Airways sounds as if the airline wants to whitewash this matter. Further, it seems strange to roster 2 pilots together if they're in a "relationship" (assuming the airline is aware of this). Very unprofessional from both pilots, and I agree that they should both be looking for another job.
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