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Tourist dies after jet blast fall at St Maarten's Princess Juliana airport

Old 13th Jul 2017, 14:06
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A remarkable display of common sense, lack of.

This video here says all there is to say about the advisability of lurking behind a running jet engine...

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Old 13th Jul 2017, 14:16
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There is a lack of respect towards this poor woman I think. Regardless of her decision to do what thousands of others have ... she has a family and people are mourning.

If my mother were to die, I'm not sure I'd appreciate some of the comments posted here that are being directed towards her.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:03
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Originally Posted by momo95 View Post
There is a lack of respect towards this poor woman I think. Regardless of her decision to do what thousands of others have ... she has a family and people are mourning.

If my mother were to die, I'm not sure I'd appreciate some of the comments posted here that are being directed towards her.
Exactly!

And I think it is fair to assume that she has seen others do it so it must be OK.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:11
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Seriously, is that how you would gauge danger? I've been there and have watched several hundreds of people doing it over a period of days. Yet it never entered my mind for a second to do something so damn dangerous!
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:18
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Teenage lads doing something like this i can understand as its a well known fact they are immortal, But a 57 year old ?
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:22
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Well said Momo95. Many posters here seem completely caught up in a bubble of aviation, so as to have lost touch with their humanity.

It's something I've seen over the years following this website. The sheer contempt shown towards the poor morons who aren't cognizant of the intricacies of your world.

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I have been to this location more than once. Not one time did I feel the need to do something stupid because I saw someone else doing it. Stupid things happen to people that do stupid things. Sometimes they live to be stupid another day, sometime they bash their heads on a concrete lane divider and die. That's life.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:47
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There is a lack of respect towards this poor woman I think. Regardless of her decision to do what thousands of others have ... she has a family and people are mourning.

If my mother were to die, I'm not sure I'd appreciate some of the comments posted here that are being directed towards her.
This kind of feeling has been addressed in Jet Blast, thus many similar threads reside there.

Basically it's one of "Lessons Learned" or; "there but for the grace of God .... "
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:24
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The Best Type of Deflector

The best type is one that deflects stupid people from getting into a dangerous situation.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 16:36
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Originally Posted by TWT View Post
There's an aptly named forum on PPRuNe for these types of incidents.It's called 'Jet Blast'.
Yeah its "Darwin Awards"
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 17:40
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It was always an accident waiting to happen i'm afraid.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 17:55
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Oh dear. A significant number of the dreaded health and safety types lurking here.
As said in an earlier post, if stupid people choose to do stupid things no amount of nanny regulation will change it.
Darwinism has its place.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 17:56
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Put it in context

Standing at that fence, or trying to hang onto that fence while an aircraft is taking off, is like a lot of other activities in which there's a risk you'll fall or be knocked down. Like skateboarding, rock climbing, trail bike riding, skiing, etc.

99% of the time when one falls, one picks up, dusts off, and moves on. Occasionally one gets a bruise, sprain, or broken bone. Or a knock on the head and a concussion. With extreme rarity, the knock on the head can be fatal, as it appears to have been in this case.

It can even happen stepping off a curb hailing a taxi.

Is it "stupid" to try to hang onto that fence behind a jet? I dunno, how much value do you get from the fun / thrill / Instagram video relative to the risk? Is it "stupid" to go skiing, rock climbing, trail bike riding?

Nobody can really answer that question for anyone else. It's only stupid if you don't understand the risks or choose not to think about them.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 17:57
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It was always an accident waiting to happen i'm afraid.
So's a ski slope. Or a skateboard park.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 18:02
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Originally Posted by TRPGpilot View Post
I have been to this location more than once. Not one time did I feel the need to do something stupid because I saw someone else doing it. Stupid things happen to people that do stupid things. Sometimes they live to be stupid another day, sometime they bash their heads on a concrete lane divider and die. That's life.
Without even knowing you I guarantee you that you, personally, participate in activities that carry risk; activities that other people who don't happen to enjoy might call 'stupid', activities that, should you be unfortunate enough to meet an untimely end while participating, will prompt people on the Internet who have never met you to comment that you were a stupid person who needed to be taken out of the gene pool.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 18:54
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Gauges and Dials, There's an element of risk in EVERYTHING we do in our daily lives. Many of these risks are beyond our control, but just as many are within our control. One could decide to stay in one's house and never venture out and one would still not be safe. It's down to personal assessment. Some assess differently to others, sometimes out of pure ignorance and sometimes because foolishly they think it "can't happen to me".
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 20:43
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Do F1 race car drivers and motorcyclists qualify as idiots?...or are they risk takers who love the thrill of speed? Everyday life has inherent risks. Everyday life can also be boring. Enough of this "Darwin Awards" crap.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 21:07
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Originally Posted by Kewbick View Post
Do F1 race car drivers and motorcyclists qualify as idiots?...or are they risk takers who love the thrill of speed? Everyday life has inherent risks. Everyday life can also be boring. Enough of this "Darwin Awards" crap.
No, but they get paid a lot of money.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 21:10
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How much must we spend to protect people from themselves? What is the value of education if people knowingly place themselves in harm's way and then pay the price when the hazard they knew existed beforehand then manifests itself? It is tragic somebody had lost their life attempting to have fun but this is life. I will also suggest that in order to really live you must have the possibiliy of an untimely death nearby. So let's just accept this was an un-intended own goal and learn from it. If not, we must must start a debate as to when we should be killed or be prevented from having children in case they die. If not, what do we do about old age?
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 21:35
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

As for risk, I get that. I snow ski. Pretty good at it too. Got two knee surgeries, broken bone in foot, wrist. When I ski, I go fast. Burn lot of calories, and sweat off 3-6Lbs. Make no mistake there's risk involved. F1 greatest driver in the world in a coma from skiing. Sonny Bono dead from skiing. Is that equivalent to standing behind a giant plane, hanging onto a link fence for protection from injury or death?

hmmmmmmmm
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