American 763 takeoff incident, ORD

[Capt Fathom]

Can't believe a prosecution would either succeed or serve any purpose.

Yes it should. The actions of just one selfish passenger getting their hand luggage could result in the death or serious injury of another passenger doing the right thing and trying to get themselves out of a burning aircraft.

[procede]

No, it should not. You cannot expect people to be rational in such a situation and should design for that.

[WHBM]

Originally Posted by Capt Fathom

The actions of just one selfish passenger getting their hand luggage could result in the death ....

But it never, in many evacs, ever has done. That's just hyperbole.

If hand luggage, particularly the modern oversized Wheeled Wonders, was such a hazard, then carriers should prevent it being carried on in the first place (as they all did a generation and more ago), and require it be put in the hold. It's been a wholly commercial decision to allow such large items in the cabin. As a study by Boeing some years ago into forward/rearward seating safety showed, the greater hazard in a sudden deceleration is not forward-facing (belted) pax being thrown forward, but rearward-facing (belted) pax being hit full in the face by large loose items flying forward.

[Two's in]

It's really odd isn't it; passengers get charged an arm and a leg for by airlines for checking any kind of baggage whatsoever, the airlines still insist on losing, damaging or generally mishandling checked bags on a regular basis, the long lines for bag check or bag drop completely invalidate the convenience of online check in and yet these morons still take their bags with them into the cabin.

Completely inexplicable.

[aterpster]

Originally Posted by Capt Fathom

Yes it should. The actions of just one selfish passenger getting their hand luggage could result in the death or serious injury of another passenger doing the right thing and trying to get themselves out of a burning aircraft.

Probably impossible to get a jury to convict.