Woman jailed for air rage
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Woman jailed for air rage
From news.bbc.co.uk
A Sunderland woman has been jailed for four months for being drunk on an aircraft.
Charlotte Davies, 31, was on a holiday flight from Newcastle to Tenerife when the pilot diverted to Portugal after she swore and was abusive to other passengers and crew.
Armed police arrested Davies when the JMC charter flight landed at Faro Airport in November 2001.
A spokesman for JMC said the decision to jail Ms Davies was 'exactly right'.
A Sunderland woman has been jailed for four months for being drunk on an aircraft.
Charlotte Davies, 31, was on a holiday flight from Newcastle to Tenerife when the pilot diverted to Portugal after she swore and was abusive to other passengers and crew.
Armed police arrested Davies when the JMC charter flight landed at Faro Airport in November 2001.
A spokesman for JMC said the decision to jail Ms Davies was 'exactly right'.
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Apparently she downed her duty free booze BEFORE getting on the aircraft because " she has a fear of flying."
How many times will we continue to hear this lame excuse.
My solution :-
DO NOT allow passengers to buy duty free alcohol before or during the flight. Instead make duty free alcohol available at arrivals (prior to the custms desk!) in the destination airport!
Seems simple to me.
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How many times will we continue to hear this lame excuse.
My solution :-
DO NOT allow passengers to buy duty free alcohol before or during the flight. Instead make duty free alcohol available at arrivals (prior to the custms desk!) in the destination airport!
Seems simple to me.
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Perhaps other passangers need to realize of direct dangers and uncomfort that an intoxicated person on a flight can cause them. Complain if necessary. Then there will be more support for airlines to refuse to take intoxicated passangers (passangers may also refrain from getting so drunk in the first lace.) Otherwise, airlines will continue to not want to upset drunk "customers" and let them on the aircraft.
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Lost count of the times I have watched TV shows like Club Reps and seen passengers accepted at check-in, when they are absolutely bladdered, and are clearly unfit to fly.
Then its down to the poor old Cabin Crew to either reject or accept/deal with them. Thiese people shouldn't be allowed airside.
Then its down to the poor old Cabin Crew to either reject or accept/deal with them. Thiese people shouldn't be allowed airside.
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Full story here. Although I agree with RThunder's comments about Peter Buck (edited in embarrasment!) to a certain extent, these idiots need to be sent the right signal. This is undoubtedly it.
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Agree but drunks can be prevented from boarding either at check-in, the gate or by the meet and greeters at the aircraft.
But if all this fails it is still in the best interest of all concerned not to fuel the fire whilst on board
Agree but drunks can be prevented from boarding either at check-in, the gate or by the meet and greeters at the aircraft.
But if all this fails it is still in the best interest of all concerned not to fuel the fire whilst on board
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Metman's idea has the further advantage of fuel savings from not having each passenger carting a litre of booze with him (trivial amounts per flight, but across the industry it would certainly add up). But it'll never be done as the airport operators won't stand for it. Departing passengers are captive for a couple of hours during which they can be separated from their money - arriving pax just want to get out of the airport as fast as possible, so they'd spend much less - meaning less profit for BAA et al.
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Bean bag - took the post right out of my keyboard - and you are absolutely right. Anthony Smith wrote a piece in Flight about this subject years ago and, as I recall, he came to the same conclusions you did. He also commented on idiots taking their duty free booze with them during emergency evacuations, and leaving a pile of broke glass at the bottom of the slide! Don't know whether that has ever happened...
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Banning duty free alcohol isn't the answer
I have every sympathy for flight crew who have to deal with drunk, rude or otherwise obnoxious passengers, but I take exception to the current tendency to believe that every ill in "society" can be fixed by implementing a new rule. Every time something bad happens, people think that there is an immediate fix available through regulation.
This whole philosophy leads down a path that I think no one wants to go if they sit back and look at it in perspective. Banning the sale of alcohol in duty free shops may sound like it will stop the problem, but as other posters before me have pointed out, that still leaves the people who get tanked up in the bar. What do we do then? Prohibit sale of alcohol in airports at all. What then if people turn up straight from the pub after sinking a skinful? Require every passenger to take a breathalyser test at check-in? What then if people have downed any of the other drugs which might make their behaviour unpredictable? Should all passengers be screened for drug use by taking a urine sampe a week before flying?
Even if we did manage to stamp out every possiblility that a passenger might behave erratically or dangerously during a flight by implementing such draconian regulation that it becomes almost impossible, and certainly unprofitable, to run airlines and airports - is it really fair on the other 99.9999% of the travelling public who cause no trouble at all?
People get drunk, people go mad, people do stupid things; that's just life. Sometimes it's irritating, and sometimes it's downright dangerous, but we can't expect all our problems and risks to be solved by legislation.
The real issue here is people (or "society" if you want to use that word). Maybe we need to start looking at the root cause of air rage (or any other "rage" for that matter). It certainly isn't alcohol, because that stuff has been around since the dawn of civilisation. The different "rages" are a relatively recent addition to human behaviour, and they're appearing everywhere regardless of any drug inducement.
This whole philosophy leads down a path that I think no one wants to go if they sit back and look at it in perspective. Banning the sale of alcohol in duty free shops may sound like it will stop the problem, but as other posters before me have pointed out, that still leaves the people who get tanked up in the bar. What do we do then? Prohibit sale of alcohol in airports at all. What then if people turn up straight from the pub after sinking a skinful? Require every passenger to take a breathalyser test at check-in? What then if people have downed any of the other drugs which might make their behaviour unpredictable? Should all passengers be screened for drug use by taking a urine sampe a week before flying?
Even if we did manage to stamp out every possiblility that a passenger might behave erratically or dangerously during a flight by implementing such draconian regulation that it becomes almost impossible, and certainly unprofitable, to run airlines and airports - is it really fair on the other 99.9999% of the travelling public who cause no trouble at all?
People get drunk, people go mad, people do stupid things; that's just life. Sometimes it's irritating, and sometimes it's downright dangerous, but we can't expect all our problems and risks to be solved by legislation.
The real issue here is people (or "society" if you want to use that word). Maybe we need to start looking at the root cause of air rage (or any other "rage" for that matter). It certainly isn't alcohol, because that stuff has been around since the dawn of civilisation. The different "rages" are a relatively recent addition to human behaviour, and they're appearing everywhere regardless of any drug inducement.
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To the MD of jmc airlines:
Dear Mr El Borai,
Is this lady still a valued guest? Or is she really just like a number of valued guests we fly on your pristine aircraft on the all too frequent occasion?
Perhaps you could be so kind as to put a picture of you throwing away the key to her cell in next month's jmc airlines "let's talk trash .com" mag?
That would give us all a morale boost. Hopefully you may have locked yourself in too.......(tongue in cheek,maybe)
Am I sacked yet sir?
Yours cynically etc etc.....
Dear Mr El Borai,
Is this lady still a valued guest? Or is she really just like a number of valued guests we fly on your pristine aircraft on the all too frequent occasion?
Perhaps you could be so kind as to put a picture of you throwing away the key to her cell in next month's jmc airlines "let's talk trash .com" mag?
That would give us all a morale boost. Hopefully you may have locked yourself in too.......(tongue in cheek,maybe)
Am I sacked yet sir?
Yours cynically etc etc.....