EgyptAir vs. bird
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It appears that the bird did not break through to the inside of the radome.
That was fortuitous. Bird guts sprayed around inside a radome and over the equipment are a real chore to clean out. The smell is "offal".
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I wonder if it was one of those red kites whose population appears to be increasing exponentially?
There are flocks of Canada geese all around the area so they might be more likely to be the other victim.
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In light of these incidents the UK Government has decided to cancel their plans to expand LHR and other airports on the mainland and move the airport in its entirety offshore on an island away from the influence of birds and other wildlife in an attempt to reduce delays to travellers.
Just kidding of course...
Just kidding of course...
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Even the mandarins in BRU don't consider bird strikes to be extraordinary. Hope MS was able to brag, borrow or ... a replacement or they are liable for large compensation payments.
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Was just wondering at what speed they had the hit.
And also noticed the arrival time of the flight is around 2100.
Didn't think geese were nocturnal flyers; imagine the shock they must have had when they hit it without seeing it coming..
And also noticed the arrival time of the flight is around 2100.
Didn't think geese were nocturnal flyers; imagine the shock they must have had when they hit it without seeing it coming..
A lot of travellers don't appreciate that LHR is in a slightly odd location given the amount of publicity given to opposoton from London dwellers to expansion. Indeed while LHR is heavliy built up to the north , east and to a degree the south but west of LHR it is largely open countryside or parkland (Royal Parkland) for a good few miles with the addition if some enormous reservoirs and flooded gravel pits which attract huge amounts of birdlife .
It has always had a real problem with birdlife , especially pre T5 when the western end of the airfield itself was home to flocks of birds including Lapwings which was appropriate for the days when when the IATA code was still LAP . The Lapwings went when T5 was built but Canada Geese abound and they brought down Sullys A320 and are a real danger to aircraft being big and knocking around in flocks .
So while its a common occurence it shouldnt be written off as trivial -thats a heck of a dent, I know its only a radome , but it would probably knockout an engine and I am sure the crew would not regard losing one donk at 200ft on finals as insignificant
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It has always had a real problem with birdlife , especially pre T5 when the western end of the airfield itself was home to flocks of birds including Lapwings which was appropriate for the days when when the IATA code was still LAP . The Lapwings went when T5 was built but Canada Geese abound and they brought down Sullys A320 and are a real danger to aircraft being big and knocking around in flocks .
So while its a common occurence it shouldnt be written off as trivial -thats a heck of a dent, I know its only a radome , but it would probably knockout an engine and I am sure the crew would not regard losing one donk at 200ft on finals as insignificant
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There are flocks of Canada geese all around the area
Riverside dwellers here put string on pegs across their lawns to discourage the blighters.
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GSY,
I didn't think that Canada Geese flew at night, either.
But then, I guess they don't call it a 'goose' for nothing.
Nonetheless, that was one hefty bird they hit.
Birds don't have to be big to cause you grief, either.
In 1960, a Lockheed Electra ran into a flock of starlings on take-off, affecting all four engines.
The consequent crash-landing resulted in 80% fatalities.
In the UK, early 1950s, I seem to remember, a Vampire had a similar encounter with starlings.
While the pilot was able to bring it back to earth safely, the bird-strike damage alone resulted in the aircraft being written off as BER.
And, if we want to go back a bit further, the first bird strike reported was by one Orville Wright, in 1905.
I didn't think that Canada Geese flew at night, either.
But then, I guess they don't call it a 'goose' for nothing.
Nonetheless, that was one hefty bird they hit.
Birds don't have to be big to cause you grief, either.
In 1960, a Lockheed Electra ran into a flock of starlings on take-off, affecting all four engines.
The consequent crash-landing resulted in 80% fatalities.
In the UK, early 1950s, I seem to remember, a Vampire had a similar encounter with starlings.
While the pilot was able to bring it back to earth safely, the bird-strike damage alone resulted in the aircraft being written off as BER.
And, if we want to go back a bit further, the first bird strike reported was by one Orville Wright, in 1905.
GSY,
I didn't think that Canada Geese flew at night, either.
But then, I guess they don't call it a 'goose' for nothing.
Nonetheless, that was one hefty bird they hit.
I didn't think that Canada Geese flew at night, either.
But then, I guess they don't call it a 'goose' for nothing.
Nonetheless, that was one hefty bird they hit.
The data has lots of canada geese strikes at night at climb and descent altitudes, spring and fall
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Bird strikes happen most often during takeoff or landing, or during low altitude flight.[7] However, bird strikes have also been reported at high altitudes, some as high as 6,000 m (20,000 ft) to 9,000 m (30,000 ft) above the ground. Bar-headed geese have been seen flying as high as 10,175 m (33,383 ft) above sea level. An aircraft over the Ivory Coast collided with a Rüppell's vulture at the altitude of 11,300 m (37,100 ft), the current record avian height.[8] The majority of bird collisions occur near or on airports (90%, according to the ICAO) during takeoff, landing and associated phases. According to the FAA wildlife hazard management manual for 2005, less than 8% of strikes occur above 900 m (3,000 ft) and 61% occur at less than 30 m (100 ft).[citation needed]
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Riverside dwellers here put string on pegs across their lawns to discourage the blighters.
Forensic examination
Of the bits still remaining will ID the culprit, hoping it's a Canadian so we can commence a cull of this nuisance
Lucky it was not an engine ingestion then a different story.
Lucky it was not an engine ingestion then a different story.
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Do geese fly at night? Since some species fly at FL300 and above, I wouldn't expect them to climb and descend each day. They are up there because it is the most efficient way to fly. Yes, FL300. Geese don't have altimeters to set to the local QNH, so I would suspect that evolution had geared them to standard pressure (which they should be, up there, anyway)