BBC report fire on Easyjet B737 - all ok
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BBC report fire on Easyjet B737 - all ok
BBC are reporting an easyJet B737 GLA-AMS has landed safely at NCL following a fire in the galley - all on board ok
Full story @
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/...00/2064647.stm
(Edited to say that the BBC story has been updated considerably since I originally posted. Fire is now stated to have been in toliet )
Full story @
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/...00/2064647.stm
(Edited to say that the BBC story has been updated considerably since I originally posted. Fire is now stated to have been in toliet )
Last edited by jetstream7; 25th Jun 2002 at 15:45.
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If it was caused by a someone smoking then I hope that on this occasion the story gets a good dose of attention from the media.
Glad to hear everyone was OK.
VFE.
Glad to hear everyone was OK.
VFE.
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Agreed
I'm with JafCon and VFE.
If it was a smoker, the stupid a-hole could have killed over a hundred people.
I'm a smoker -- but have never lit up on a non-smoking flight and certainly never in a toilet.
Wasn't a plane burnt out in Canada some time back by an idiot ditching a ciggy in the loo's waste paper holder?
If it was a smoker, the stupid a-hole could have killed over a hundred people.
I'm a smoker -- but have never lit up on a non-smoking flight and certainly never in a toilet.
Wasn't a plane burnt out in Canada some time back by an idiot ditching a ciggy in the loo's waste paper holder?
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I am stunned that someone may have been that stupid.
As a smoker I shocked that someone could not wait for what an hour or so gate to gate. I hope (if proved) that someone actually gets sent down for this!!
As a smoker I shocked that someone could not wait for what an hour or so gate to gate. I hope (if proved) that someone actually gets sent down for this!!
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Well Done to the crew involved, my and everyones utter nightmare, ..... a fire onboard, no matter where it is especially on an overwater flight.
Just shows u how essential the fire and smoke renewals are especially the toilet door practice we do.
If it concludes that it was a smoker, i really hope that he/she is caught and "the book" is thrown at them.
Just shows u how essential the fire and smoke renewals are especially the toilet door practice we do.
If it concludes that it was a smoker, i really hope that he/she is caught and "the book" is thrown at them.
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Having read some of the comments, speculation and drama-laden statements which followed the original post, I'm convinced that we don't actually need any "media luvvies" to "ham it up"... 
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For God's Sake. Didn't either of the crew go back and investigate?
as in this case, I too would be far more interested in getting the thing on the ground - questions can be freely asked later. The stats say that any fire however small will lead to "complete loss of control" in around 12-14mins. serious control loss can be expected well before this time. A long retired training captain once said to me "its far better to have egg all over your face, than it is to have to attend all those funerals"
well done guys,
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Flat Spin...
Since when, in a 2 crew aircraft, does anyone think you send a Flt Crew member back to the rear galley to establish if there really is a fire?!*!
1. Any smoke on the aircraft requires both Flt Crew to go onto masks...
2. If there was a fire, he certainly wouldn't get anywhere near the rear gally for panicking PAX, and if he did, he would not get back up front.
3. If there was a fire, and therefore likely to be developing, he is far more likely to be overcome by fumes than contributing anything useful.
4. Please give our Cabin Crews SOME credit - they have far more experience of the smoke / smells in the galley area, and therefore more likely to detect a genuine abnormaility.
5. If there is a fire, or even a possibility, those 90 seconds are better spent acting as 2 crew to get the thing on the ground ASAP, as it appears this crew did.
NoD
Since when, in a 2 crew aircraft, does anyone think you send a Flt Crew member back to the rear galley to establish if there really is a fire?!*!
1. Any smoke on the aircraft requires both Flt Crew to go onto masks...
2. If there was a fire, he certainly wouldn't get anywhere near the rear gally for panicking PAX, and if he did, he would not get back up front.
3. If there was a fire, and therefore likely to be developing, he is far more likely to be overcome by fumes than contributing anything useful.
4. Please give our Cabin Crews SOME credit - they have far more experience of the smoke / smells in the galley area, and therefore more likely to detect a genuine abnormaility.
5. If there is a fire, or even a possibility, those 90 seconds are better spent acting as 2 crew to get the thing on the ground ASAP, as it appears this crew did.
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Why ?
You assume that a flight deck member is so adept he/she may be able to save the day and regognise dry ice where the cabin crew cannot!!
If it had been a fire an the pax regognise it whilst the FO is at the back galley he/she may never get back to the flight deck in the panic to follow.
If there is any doubt get it on the ground.
Good job.
You assume that a flight deck member is so adept he/she may be able to save the day and regognise dry ice where the cabin crew cannot!!
If it had been a fire an the pax regognise it whilst the FO is at the back galley he/she may never get back to the flight deck in the panic to follow.
If there is any doubt get it on the ground.
Good job.
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90 seconds into 12 minutes could be the difference between life and death when dealing with an on-board smoke/fire. FlapsOne is right, the cabin crew are trained to deal with the cabin and we the flight crew will fly the aircraft.
If only Swissair at Halifax had an extra few minutes granted to them...
If only Swissair at Halifax had an extra few minutes granted to them...
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Wasn't a plane burnt out in Canada some time back by an idiot ditching a ciggy in the loo's waste paper holder?
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1983/830602-1.htm
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...14X43285&key=1
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I was thinking why EZY were carrying dry ice and then I remembered that the CC use it to cool there fingers after checking out if the flight deck breakfasts are hot enough! Mind you having worked in their -300 gallies, an oven fire is a real possibility - they are mingin!
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Flaps 1,
I fully agree the cabin crew should handle this, unless you suspect damage to essentials like electrics, flight controls etc.
Then one of the flight crew should investigate, anyway still land at nearest suitable, don't take things for granted like boeing suggests in QRH section; smoke or fumes airco & electrical.
They only recomment landing "if smoke or fumes persist"
So if they don't persist you just continue??? I don't think so!!
Dry ice and water mix can ruin your day, it shows. But it's a laugh on the ground for fun.
I fully agree the cabin crew should handle this, unless you suspect damage to essentials like electrics, flight controls etc.
Then one of the flight crew should investigate, anyway still land at nearest suitable, don't take things for granted like boeing suggests in QRH section; smoke or fumes airco & electrical.
They only recomment landing "if smoke or fumes persist"
So if they don't persist you just continue??? I don't think so!!
Dry ice and water mix can ruin your day, it shows. But it's a laugh on the ground for fun.
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No-one going to answer Deskdrivers question?
If I were a terrorist, all I need is a lighter and some loo-roll in the lav- hey presto- access to the flightdeck when FD crewmember comes to investigate.
If I were a terrorist, all I need is a lighter and some loo-roll in the lav- hey presto- access to the flightdeck when FD crewmember comes to investigate.