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Aircraft parts found Reunion,Mosambique, and SA

Old 14th Mar 2016, 14:11
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https://www.ecr.co.za/news-sport/new...is-kzn-family/

Better scale of the piece found here
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Old 14th Mar 2016, 19:31
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Originally Posted by Leftfoot View Post
https://www.ecr.co.za/news-sport/new...is-kzn-family/

Better scale of the piece found here
Yes it is a good picture of the find and Lotter Jnr. Now if it turns out that it did belong to MH370, then the Lotters have hit the lottery jackpot.

Here in the UK we have some laws and things alike that would oblige us to hand it over to a chap called "Receiver of Wrecks".
Here is an extract from the published guidance.

"Merchant Shipping Act 1995
Under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995, you must report to the Receiver of Wreck all wreck material recovered from UK territorial waters and any wreck material brought into the UK from outside UK territorial waters. This includes:

wreck material found in or on the sea
wreck material washed ashore in tidal waters
material recovered from a wreck site - regardless of age, size or apparent importance or value
When you report recovered wreck material to the Receiver, you may be entitled to a salvage award."
Don`t they have one of these Receiver of Wreck types in SA. I would have thought they would have given him a courtesy call before letting the CAA chaps cart it away.
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Old 16th Mar 2016, 16:53
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I have seen media reports today that the French investigation has told the Australian investigation that the second part found by Johny Begue on Reunion is unlikely to be from MH370.


I believe that's the small blue and white section found the other week.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-missing-plane
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 19:55
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Based on the specific honeycomb squarish pattern on the SA part (aramicore does manufacture some very similar for aircrafts) can an engineer say if this is the stuff mainly found on 777 fairings?
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 21:41
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One question I would like to pose is why is debris not being found off western and southern Australia. The debris field animations from the time of the event always suggested material would wash up on Madagascar and Reunion, but also showed that much more material would arrive on Australian beaches. With nothing found to date conspiracy theorists could play on this point.
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 22:47
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Simple answer: very few floating debris, very very lucky that one was confirmed. If there had been lots of seat cushions and the like, they'd possibly turn out in both locations. Animated debris field is probabilist, given the currents, not actual. There are many possible routes, but if one drops at sea within a few hundred yards three half-floating objects without variable "sail" surfaces exposed to the wind, chances are they will be sheppered by oceanic currents to roughly in the same geographic area, a few months later. Except right in the middle where the dominent Indian ocean current splits! Whatever, conspiracy theorists craft, use, recycle or invent whatever can suits their irrational view of things. While annoying, it is a common human reaction in an attempt to bring a sense of order where there isn't yet. You just can't prevent it.
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One question I would like to pose is why is debris not being found off western and southern Australia.
One reason may well be that the western Australian coastline is an extremely isolated place. Much fewer people there than along the equivalent in Africa.
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 23:01
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The lower section appears to me very similar to the second sample from top.
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Old 20th Mar 2016, 07:47
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One question I would like to pose is why is debris not being found off western and southern Australia.
Maybe all the wreckage passed to the south of OZ and will wash up on South America.
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Found some evidential cue in aerospace suppliers literature (DuPont Nomex, ACP and Aramicore) with regards to square-cell honeycomb composite displayed on the debris marked 676EB... This type of core is called Over-Expanded Cell Aramid Honeycomb and allows the core to flex more in one direction than the other, "providing improved drapeability for the production of curved parts". Maybe I have a fixation, but the more I look at it, the more I see a relevant clue.
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 12:07
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It's reported that the two pieces of debris have now arrived in Australia for analysis.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 10:51
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Possible aircraft Debris found - South Africa

The below just seen on twitter. Reported by Channel News Asia.

JUST IN: A piece of debris possibly from an "Inlet Cowling" of an aircraft found along southern coast of South Africa, near Mosselbay today

https://twitter.com/SumishaCNA/statu...19135745269760

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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 10:58
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I suspect many more will be surfacing. It's been what, 2 years & counting.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 10:59
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Yes just over 2 years now. Another link to this news.

Airplane debris found along South African coast | theSundaily

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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 13:34
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Looks like this is the first piece that isn't definitively from the Starboard side.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 15:32
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Here's a picture of it.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 17:54
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and another, close up


https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...65&oe=5782BE5E
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Hmm? "ROY.." Couldn't be Royce could it?

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The logo is certainly Rolls Royce
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Not only Rolls Royce logo it is, but here is a color match where the RR logo is on the engine where it should be!
(Having problem with picture link it seems, but it is very easy to find if it keeps bugging)

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