Stag party causes Ryanair diversion
I do remember on a Monarch flight to Malaga from Man circa 20 years ago where about 12-15 on a stag do.
Flight circa 60% full. Group spread all round close to back of plane.
Guy in charge said to passengers around they on stag, apologised well in advance for behaviour and suggested that if they wanted to swap with others on stag so they all in one place.
Everybody did including gorgeous BA trainer that sat and chatted to me all flight and never asked for her number
The stag party drank and a bit loud / leery but even FA said they ok and had 2 who were in control.
Spoke to one of stag group waiting for bags and said thanks, he looked on being in control for a couple of hours as better than all getting chucked off flight. He claimed the deal all agreed was 2 in charge were in charge and ensured they all got there.
Now airlines flying stag / hens the option I like is find someone in charge and make it clear before flight takes off that will deny all boarding or cancel all if have to divert.
On this specific flight I think 48 hours held in custody and then released is a good option as they miss everything.
FR is not only one that has issues with Stag/Hens as everybody has.
Flight circa 60% full. Group spread all round close to back of plane.
Guy in charge said to passengers around they on stag, apologised well in advance for behaviour and suggested that if they wanted to swap with others on stag so they all in one place.
Everybody did including gorgeous BA trainer that sat and chatted to me all flight and never asked for her number
The stag party drank and a bit loud / leery but even FA said they ok and had 2 who were in control.
Spoke to one of stag group waiting for bags and said thanks, he looked on being in control for a couple of hours as better than all getting chucked off flight. He claimed the deal all agreed was 2 in charge were in charge and ensured they all got there.
Now airlines flying stag / hens the option I like is find someone in charge and make it clear before flight takes off that will deny all boarding or cancel all if have to divert.
On this specific flight I think 48 hours held in custody and then released is a good option as they miss everything.
FR is not only one that has issues with Stag/Hens as everybody has.
The fact is that it would not surprise me if the Cabin Crew themselves had been helping to fuel the issue, instead of refusing to sell alcohol.
This is all in the spirit of some of these Low Cost Airlines, sales strategy, not all CC has the sense to understand when enough is enough.
This is all in the spirit of some of these Low Cost Airlines, sales strategy, not all CC has the sense to understand when enough is enough.
Personal responsibility
Originally Posted by anengineer
Bars selling alcohol 24/7 at the airport, bars selling alcohol 24/7 in the departure lounge, duty-free shops selling cut price alcohol in the departure lounge, cabin crew pushing alcohol-laden trolleys up and down the aisle during the flight.
Shock and outrage that some people get drunk.
Short of misting it throughout the plane via the air conditioning, I can't think of anything else they could do to get any more alcohol into the passengers.
Shock and outrage that some people get drunk.
Short of misting it throughout the plane via the air conditioning, I can't think of anything else they could do to get any more alcohol into the passengers.
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From the public point of view the era of romance has certainly left aviation for good. Aircraft and the personnel who fly them are sadly no more important these days than taxi drivers or bus drivers on the booze bus for the last lift home. Sad but true.
Aircraft and the personnel who fly them are sadly no more important these days than taxi drivers or bus drivers on the booze bus for the last lift home.
A Ryanair spokesman said the airline did not tolerate "unruly or disruptive behaviour at any time and the safety and comfort of our customers, crew and aircraft is our number one priority".
Maybe I'm just cynical but I highly doubt that any airline's true first priority is safety.
I would bet it is profit, and that for the most part they wouldn't care that much about safety if it wasn't so intrinsically linked by reputation to profit.
Also, Ryanair's statement of "not tolerating unruly or disruptive behaviour at any time" is clearly not true if the flight made it all the way to Germany... if they didn't tolerate it they'd have been denied boarding, or offloaded before departure
The bit on the BBC report that I suggest could be a cause for some concern as to what peoples priorities are these days is where the groom who accepts that his mates were wrong goes on to say that he is considering legal advice as it was wrongly reported in the German news that he was one of them which has caused distress to him and his family.
Maybe the disrupted passengers should consider legal advice against the stag party for the not inconsiderable distress they were subject to.
Maybe the disrupted passengers should consider legal advice against the stag party for the not inconsiderable distress they were subject to.
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In the days when I had my own offshore business and in the days when Latvian banks were offshore I had a few business/banking trips to/from Riga.
Riga was a RYR destination, now I wonder why I knew exactly what sort of 'sex tourists' to expect on a RYR flight to a 'sex tourist' destination and why I alternatively chose to fly to/from Riga with KLM.
These punters opt for the cheapest of the cheap to such 'sex tourist' destinations and "shock, horror" when other punters may become rowdy.
They got what they paid for!
Riga was a RYR destination, now I wonder why I knew exactly what sort of 'sex tourists' to expect on a RYR flight to a 'sex tourist' destination and why I alternatively chose to fly to/from Riga with KLM.
These punters opt for the cheapest of the cheap to such 'sex tourist' destinations and "shock, horror" when other punters may become rowdy.
They got what they paid for!
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Just an armchair passenger but I was wondering under what country's legislation are these cases handled? Country of origin, destination, registration or over where it happened or where it diverted to? For example, a divert to Riyadh for drunkenness would probably add a few extra slashes to the deal?
Mother's Ruin seems to be enjoying a renaissance. (Warning! Aviation content) Another new gin on the market is Shetland Reel. It is produced in the former supplies building of what was, until 2006, RAF Saxa Vord in Shetland.
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The one round trip I flew with RYR (only because they were the only airline to serve VST) the beer was warm and the sandwich was stale.
Who can blame punters for getting sh1tfaced in the terminal before boarding?
Who can blame punters for getting sh1tfaced in the terminal before boarding?
In the days when I had my own offshore business and in the days when Latvian banks were offshore I had a few business/banking trips to/from Riga.
Riga was a RYR destination, now I wonder why I knew exactly what sort of 'sex tourists' to expect on a RYR flight to a 'sex tourist' destination and why I alternatively chose to fly to/from Riga with KLM.
Riga was a RYR destination, now I wonder why I knew exactly what sort of 'sex tourists' to expect on a RYR flight to a 'sex tourist' destination and why I alternatively chose to fly to/from Riga with KLM.
Spain/Canaries are by far the worst in my experience. However, the thought of being nicked by either the French or Spanish police tends to sober people up fairly quickly when it is suggested they behave or else!
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Spain/Canaries are by far the worst in my experience
He and I hit it off straight away and I'll never forget his words "The cheaper the fare the worse the passenger".
That was oh so true, in the UK IT world Spain, particularly the 2hr rather than 2hr 30min flights, were the worst, Corfu, rather than the likes of Kos and Rhodes, was another 'lager lout' destination ... and as for the Channel Islands ... well!
Of course these days we have airlines offering fares for stupid amounts of money ... They are their own worst enemy.
It's certainly a case of the destination rather than the airline. Fly Ryanair to Carcassonne, Bergamo etc and you'll be surrounded by 'nice people'. Fly certain other destinations and the same might not be true, regardless of the name on the side of the plane.
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So do tell me the training everyone will be given to spot drunkeness ?
My poor friend following a stroke slur his words, can be slightly unsteady on his feet if standing for to long, cann not drink because of health.
My poor friend following a stroke slur his words, can be slightly unsteady on his feet if standing for to long, cann not drink because of health.
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