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Dynamic Airways 767 catches fire at FLL (Miami, Ft. Lauderdale)

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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 20:37
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The forward slide deployed on the fire side.....*shudder*
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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 22:24
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Originally Posted by skidbuggy
Video of the evacuation. Pay attention to the man that falls face down and doesn't move by the tail of the jet.

https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/vid...3866917358812/

Slag away....
It appears the man face down on the tarmac may have been blown over by the jet blast from the right engine which was still running when 2R slide was deployed.
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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 22:29
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Unlikely that he was blown by idling engine so far away. The description says he was running and fell and injured his head.
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The right engine may have been somewhat above idle, especially if the pilots were motoring the left engine trying to squelch the fire.
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There are a lot of people running around much closer to the right engine's exhaust and they aren't being knocked down. So highly unlikely cause-and-effect. Also "motoring whatever engine" isn't a recommended/approved procedure during evacuation/fire.
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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 22:57
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The left engine may have caught fire during a delayed engine start while taxiing. The pilots would have had the right engine pushed up in order to get enough cross bleed air pressure to start the left engine.
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Regardless what was happening with the right engine - no other passengers seem affected by it, some visibly much closer to the engine and even dwell for a few seconds at the base of the slide.
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 01:55
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If the APU was running they wouldn't need to cross bleed start.
And I doubt they were still trying to start the engine while they were evacuating.

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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 02:20
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The right engine was still running at the start of that video. You can see the smoke blown by the jet exhaust. Presumably the engine is what blew the slide back.

It seems plausible to me that the person was knocked down by jetblast. The engine was shut down soon after, so other people were not affected.
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 02:50
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Originally Posted by porterhouse
Regardless what was happening with the right engine - no other passengers seem affected by it, some visibly much closer to the engine and even dwell for a few seconds at the base of the slide.
Look closer. There is at least one other evacuee who goes down but gets back up.
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 07:12
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Unlikely that he was blown by idling engine so far away. The description says he was running and fell and injured his head.
Sure, that is possible. But you don't fall down without trying to stop your face from sliding on the pavement if you are feeling well. I have a strong suspicion that that person was unconscious for whatever reason before hitting the ground.
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 16:08
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Investigators: Dynamic plane's fuel-line was disconnected before fire

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Investigators: Dynamic plane's fuel-line was disconnected before fire
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 16:25
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Thanks wanabee777 for the heads up. Below is from Aviation Times:

NTSB Investigative Update on Dynamic International Airways Flight 405 November 3, 2015
WASHINGTON -- As part of its ongoing investigation into the October 29, 2015, airplane fire during taxi of Dynamic International Airways flight 405, a Boeing 767, at Fort Lauderdale–Hollywood International Airport (FLL), Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, the NTSB today released the following investigative update.

• The NTSB found that the main fuel supply line coupling assembly had disconnected in the wing-to-engine strut above and behind the left engine. This coupling assembly has been retained for further examination.
• Examination of the left engine revealed no evidence of an engine uncontainment or other failure.
• The lower inboard portion of the left wing, left engine cowling, and left fuselage center section sustained thermal damage. The fire did not penetrate the fuselage.
• The FDR/CVR were transported to the NTSB Recorders Laboratory in Washington, DC, and are being downloaded and evaluated.
• The NTSB is reviewing the airplane maintenance records at Dynamic International Airways’ headquarters in North Carolina. According to the aircraft records, the accident airplane was in dry storage for approximately 29 months until September 2015 when Dynamic International Airways leased the airplane. Dynamic International Airways has operated the airplane for about 240 hours under the present lease.
• An initial review of the airplane onboard logbook revealed there was no entry of maintenance action having been performed in the area of the fuel coupling prior to the accident flight while in FLL.
• NTSB investigators have interviewed the two flight crew members and nine cabin crew members.
• Of the 90 passengers and 11 crewmembers onboard the airplane, one was seriously injured and 21 sustained minor injuries as a result of the emergency evacuation.
• Dynamic International Airways has issued a Fleet Campaign Directive to inspect the remainder of their aircraft to ensure proper installation of the fuel line coupling assemblies.

Investigators expect to complete the onsite investigation today
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Old 14th Mar 2018, 17:07
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Looks like Dynamic is rebranding as Eastern Airlines and adding 767s. Let the pilot hiring begin !!



https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...tern-air-lines
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i guess the 767 that burned was a write off?
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Old 15th Mar 2018, 00:31
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Originally Posted by Union Jack
"I'm told one of the engines caught fire as the plane was taxiing, getting ready for departure. I don't know the number of people on board, and I don't know the condition of the people, but I was told the fire was put out by a fire rescue team on sight," said FLL spokesperson Greg Meyer.

Call that a spokesperson?

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Worse - call that a trained journalist. I'm guessing is that the fire crews were on SITE.
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Old 15th Mar 2018, 15:41
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Originally Posted by rog747
i guess the 767 that burned was a write off?
The airframe was chopped up last year, however, the engines are still sitting in a parking lot on the northwest side of the airport.
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