Drones threatening commercial a/c?
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From www.gatwickairport.com :
Flight Disruption
Friday 21st December 04:11
Gatwick continues to advise passengers to check the status of their flight with their airline before travelling to the airport.
We are currently working with airlines and air traffic controllers to introduce a limited number of flights over the coming hours.
Gatwick continues to advise passengers to check the status of their flight with their airline before travelling to the airport.
We are currently working with airlines and air traffic controllers to introduce a limited number of flights over the coming hours.
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From Eurocontrol:
21DEC 05:16
EGKK (London Gatwick) will be available after 0800 utc but with low acceptance rate.
Aircraft operators are asked to keep their FPLs updated.
When flights are ready to go please request the departure TWR to send a REA message to ETFMS.
NMOC Brussels
EGKK (London Gatwick) will be available after 0800 utc but with low acceptance rate.
Aircraft operators are asked to keep their FPLs updated.
When flights are ready to go please request the departure TWR to send a REA message to ETFMS.
NMOC Brussels
05:55 Local ....Condor 757 out of East Midlands appears to have just landed. Update: 06:05Local..China Eastern A330 from Shanghai on approach...
FR showing about ten other flights heading for LGW.
FR showing about ten other flights heading for LGW.
Hopeless and opiniated...seriously? Gatwick closes down and the politicians who are responsible are beyond criticism?
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* at which point they could revert to the ancient technique of dead-reckoning; fly south for three seconds, then west etc
or jam local GPS reception*, neither of which seems safe in the vicinity of an airport.
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There is zero terror involved here.
Do we have any information as of why the airport could be now opened?
Did they indentify the operator(s)? What made flight operation safe again?
Wonder if this was some sort of extorsion scheme with a ransom being paid...
Did they indentify the operator(s)? What made flight operation safe again?
Wonder if this was some sort of extorsion scheme with a ransom being paid...
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I find it particularly alarming that the National Grid may be dependent on it also. That this should not have happened is clear, but mitigating it is a whole other matter.
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Terrorism does not have to involve an actual act. Just the threat is enough for terrorism to work. The threat here is that potentially an aircraft could hit a drone and crash, killing all on board. You do not need that to actually happen to determine the threat of the drones is a terrorism event. There's certainly no terror.....yet. Would you rather there was before classing this as an act of terrorism or is the potential not enough for you?
This pretty much fits the bill IMHO.
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Drone regulation
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No amount of Legislation wiill stop a determined Criminal - by definition Criminals break the Law !
Comparisons with Bird Strikes are flawed - Birds don't have built in Power Sources - with their associated explosive risks.
IMHO the only real answer is the use of Technology to either prevent Drones from operating in and aorund Airfileds,
or to interrupt their flight ( whether this be Signal Jammmg, or a more physical form of intervention ) to bring them down,
where they can be forensically examined with a view to identifing the culprit(s).
Comparisons with Bird Strikes are flawed - Birds don't have built in Power Sources - with their associated explosive risks.
IMHO the only real answer is the use of Technology to either prevent Drones from operating in and aorund Airfileds,
or to interrupt their flight ( whether this be Signal Jammmg, or a more physical form of intervention ) to bring them down,
where they can be forensically examined with a view to identifing the culprit(s).
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Something SteveH said got me thinking. Besides firing chickens into engines during certification they should also be firing in a couple of popular drones.
It's an awful problem that is difficult to solve, much like the laser pointer problem.
It's an awful problem that is difficult to solve, much like the laser pointer problem.
If this is Terrorism then so is a crack pot lashing themselves to a M25 motorway bridge causing massive tailbacks both ways.
Somthing we may have to live with. Especially if the miscreants are not caught and severely dealt with. No videos uploaded from the perps or claims of why made public yet . A good day for Mrs May to bury #Brexit news. Coincidence?
Somthing we may have to live with. Especially if the miscreants are not caught and severely dealt with. No videos uploaded from the perps or claims of why made public yet . A good day for Mrs May to bury #Brexit news. Coincidence?