IFALPA Recruitment Ban on CX
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
After some consideration, I also tend to think that trying to impose a ban on recruitment of Second Officers might be counter-productive to IFALPA's and HKAOA's aims. I can imagine what CX managements' response would be, if a successful candidate for a Second officer's position told them he was refusing the job because of a union directive!
Certainly a recruitment ban on direct entry Captains, and a ban on ALL training would, to my mind, be supported more enthusiastically, and would be much fairer than jeopardising future Second Officers' positions. In addition - if IFALPA do try to push the recruitment ban on S/O's - I believe that CX will push hard ahead with the intakes to show that the union has "no teeth".
Let them recruit them, but refuse to train them, until the dispute is resolved - it then becomes a win/win situation for IFALPA and the HKAOA!!
Certainly a recruitment ban on direct entry Captains, and a ban on ALL training would, to my mind, be supported more enthusiastically, and would be much fairer than jeopardising future Second Officers' positions. In addition - if IFALPA do try to push the recruitment ban on S/O's - I believe that CX will push hard ahead with the intakes to show that the union has "no teeth".
Let them recruit them, but refuse to train them, until the dispute is resolved - it then becomes a win/win situation for IFALPA and the HKAOA!!
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Hey good on ya Kaptin M ...now there is a good idea..are in fact cx members accepting commands? shouldn't be...I would definitely sympathize with any attempt to prohibit/ostracize DEC's as they definitely would be taking jobs from cx f.o.'s and from sacked pilots...but don't take it out on the poor bloke trying to get in the door...spread that idea around...
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CX had started rostering 2 S/Os on ultra long haul since early this year. CX will roster more and more of 2 S/O ULR flight when they can get away with it. The new hire S/Os are, therefore, going to replace the job of the fired captains and F/Os.
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Are you sure about the S/O roistering?
It seems to me that this is not such a great idea, especially if things go wrong, and they do...Murphy's Law
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Are you sure about the S/O roistering?
It seems to me that this is not such a great idea, especially if things go wrong, and they do...Murphy's Law
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CX have never rostered 2 capt's on ULH flights except in the (frequent) scheduling screw-ups. I fail to see how new hire S/O's could replace sacked capt's. BTW, I'll put money on them ALL getting their jobs back before this is over.
IB57, are you getting soft? Where's the invictive? Please don't tell me a real heart beats under that IB facade. In any case, I agree with you about DE commands. Never again.
IB57, are you getting soft? Where's the invictive? Please don't tell me a real heart beats under that IB facade. In any case, I agree with you about DE commands. Never again.
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Kaptin M: I believe the training of S/O is probably a part of the job specified in the employment contract. Refusal to do so will give the mgmt an excuse to fire the pilot WITHOUT COMPENSATION. That is no different from an illegal strike.
