EZY demands BA slots @ Gatwick!!
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If Sleazyjet.com are coming big time to LGW, then lets hope that Gatwick Airport Limited charge them the same airport rates and charges that the rest of us have to pay, and they dont squeal and squirm from paying for jet briges and the like. If they dont want a jet bridge then bus in, if they don't accept the charges we are all asked to pay, then go elsewhere. I can see a huge bun fight coming to Gatwick, between the schedules, charters and low cost,...should be fun over the next year or so, whats left of us.
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Excuse me, I may be missing something re EZJ expanding at LGW, unless i'm very much mistaken the EU has ruled that airlines can hang on to the slots they have for the time being, even if they are not using them. I think that means no more slots for EZJ from the BA pool.
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At the risk of upsetting a few people. It is only a matter of time before easy pick up more slots. Airports make their money from the "herds" of passengers flowing through the terminals. Unused slots = a reduction in profits. I believe Gatwick were on the phone to easy enquiring whether they would be interested in using more slots should they become available.
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Swede, is this the same EU whose court of human rights say you can't land/ take-off at night? I'm glad they've found afriend in you. I think both rulings are utterly unbelievably atrocious! 
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EZ don't want to use Air Bridges.
It's much quicker to load/unload using both doors and bus the pax to/from the jet.
Less pax go walkabout then and a 20-30 min turnround is much easier.
EZ don't want to use Air Bridges.
It's much quicker to load/unload using both doors and bus the pax to/from the jet.
Less pax go walkabout then and a 20-30 min turnround is much easier.
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As "angrycat" states, airlines that are not flying routes and allowing slots to lapse bring in NO INCOME (either from the pax or airline) for the airport involved.
So watchout for the airports to go hunting airlines who can and will.
The low-cost airlines will be the ones to fill-in the empty slots because the bigger/flag carrier ones are "downsizing".
[ 11 October 2001: Message edited by: dwlpl ]
So watchout for the airports to go hunting airlines who can and will.
The low-cost airlines will be the ones to fill-in the empty slots because the bigger/flag carrier ones are "downsizing".
[ 11 October 2001: Message edited by: dwlpl ]
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Credibility issue
Has anyone ever considered the possibility that business people might feel embarrassed travelling on easyjet ? Imagine travelling to Europe to close a major deal, only to be caught out arriving on easyjet, or worse arriving in an easyRentacar !!). Many business people spend more on a business lunch than what some folks pay for easyjet seats. As for Stelios’ car rental business, you can hire a real Mercedes for next to nothing. Impressive value for money ! Shame it has those cheesy orange easyAdverts stuck all over it. Get real !!!!
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As regards the slot issue. If EZE wants to mix with the big boys at LHR, then perhaps they should take a gamble and service some ‘big boy’ routes, where 100% load factors are not so EZE to achieve.
… and finally
Easyjet is for people who simply cannot afford to fly and who would otherwise be travelling by train. This obviously explains why EZE cannot charge more than the rail companies.
Has anyone ever considered the possibility that business people might feel embarrassed travelling on easyjet ? Imagine travelling to Europe to close a major deal, only to be caught out arriving on easyjet, or worse arriving in an easyRentacar !!). Many business people spend more on a business lunch than what some folks pay for easyjet seats. As for Stelios’ car rental business, you can hire a real Mercedes for next to nothing. Impressive value for money ! Shame it has those cheesy orange easyAdverts stuck all over it. Get real !!!!
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As regards the slot issue. If EZE wants to mix with the big boys at LHR, then perhaps they should take a gamble and service some ‘big boy’ routes, where 100% load factors are not so EZE to achieve.
… and finally
Easyjet is for people who simply cannot afford to fly and who would otherwise be travelling by train. This obviously explains why EZE cannot charge more than the rail companies.
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If your comments are anything to go by, you are probably all of 22 years old and still sitting in the r/h seat (if not selling sandwiches in the back). My personal issue is not with you or your fellow EZY aircrew, but the way in which your company’s PR department is seeking to take advantage of recent events. Anything for a cheap publicity stunt !!! Go for the slots, if you have to, but don’t go on about it !!! Nobody likes vultures !
If your comments are anything to go by, you are probably all of 22 years old and still sitting in the r/h seat (if not selling sandwiches in the back). My personal issue is not with you or your fellow EZY aircrew, but the way in which your company’s PR department is seeking to take advantage of recent events. Anything for a cheap publicity stunt !!! Go for the slots, if you have to, but don’t go on about it !!! Nobody likes vultures !
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I wish I was only 22 ! 
So why the personal insults towards EZY crews, insinuating they are 'not worthy' etc etc. The aviation pros like crews, ops etc don't have anything to do with the PR side FYI !
Nobody likes loudmouths !
So why the personal insults towards EZY crews, insinuating they are 'not worthy' etc etc. The aviation pros like crews, ops etc don't have anything to do with the PR side FYI !
Nobody likes loudmouths !
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Charterguy ...If you travel EZY sureley you are demonstrating SOUND business acumen ..after all why pay BRAL £179 bhd-edi when you can pay EZY £70 BFS -EDI makes better sense for the beancounter!(and in these times it may be the only way for the smaller business guy to travel!) Secondly ..if EZY is only for people who "can't afford to fly " and would be taking the train.Lets you and I have a little race I will take the EZY to LPL LUT EDI AMS GLA ,from BFS ...you try taking a train !! first there has the beers bought to him !!
Take the point about the adverts on the MERC tho'
Take the point about the adverts on the MERC tho'
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Charterguy,
I fear you are missing the point here. Easy are not trying to take advantage of recent events. If the management see an opportunity they go after it - nothing wrong with that. The events of Sept 11th are not wholly responsible for the problems at BA/Swissair/Sabena etc. Runnng a business is bloody difficult - that's why I am happy to be paid a salary!
I fear you are missing the point here. Easy are not trying to take advantage of recent events. If the management see an opportunity they go after it - nothing wrong with that. The events of Sept 11th are not wholly responsible for the problems at BA/Swissair/Sabena etc. Runnng a business is bloody difficult - that's why I am happy to be paid a salary!
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Well, I am sorry to disagree with most of you guys (and gals). LHR is totally congested, to such a degree that night flying has become a necessity (for some). Apparently only 16 flights will be affected by this (Big Deal !!!). Perhaps it is now time to kiss Terminal 5 goodbye and consider the other airports around London such as Luton and Stansted. It's bad enough having to fly (as crew) between 2330 hrs and 0600 hrs. Why would passengers wish to fly at that time ? The only flights which will be seriously affected are long-haul flights from the Far East which arrive first thing (before 6 am). They will now all come in at 6am sharp and make ATC earn their keep. Most passengers are happy to fly between 0600 and 2300. Only greedy f**kers like Easyjet will need to operate at 'stupid o'clock' to make their silly 'pauper scheme' pay.
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Why is that f@ tw@ Stelios so obsessed with this route to Belfast ? What is he trying to prove ? He has one great advantage over BA, though. He can probably make this route pay, despite the high landing fees at LHR, by asking his easySh*t flight crews to clean the cabin and the toilets on the way out, thus saving the cost of cleaners. Could work, couldn't it ? Believe it or not, those muppets would do it as well otherwise they would have never passed these easySh*t psychometric tests !!!! I bet you guys wondered what these silly questions were all about !? Ever wondered why Stelios is overweight ? He regularly eats at McDonalds. For those of you who don't, it's a place where the restaurant manager is expected to sweep up fries and clean the toilets (to lead by example!). Now you know where Stelios got his marvellous ideas !!!
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I think we all ought to stop using the term easySh*t. Stelios might decide to branch out and market a new laxative !
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Credibility issue
Has anyone ever considered the possibility that business people might feel embarrassed travelling on easyjet ? Imagine travelling to Europe to close a major deal, only to be caught out arriving on easyjet, or worse arriving in an easyRentacar !!). Many business people spend more on a business lunch than what some folks pay for easyjet seats. As for Stelios’ car rental business, you can hire a real Mercedes for next to nothing. Impressive value for money ! Shame it has those cheesy orange easyAdverts stuck all over it. Get real !!!!
Slots
As regards the slot issue. If EZE wants to mix with the big boys at LHR, then perhaps they should take a gamble and service some ‘big boy’ routes, where 100% load factors are not so EZE to achieve.
… and finally
Easyjet is for people who simply cannot afford to fly and who would otherwise be travelling by train. This obviously explains why EZE cannot charge more than the rail companies.
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Ghost-rider
If your comments are anything to go by, you are probably all of 22 years old and still sitting in the r/h seat (if not selling sandwiches in the back). My personal issue is not with you or your fellow EZY aircrew, but the way in which your company’s PR department is seeking to take advantage of recent events. Anything for a cheap publicity stunt !!! Go for the slots, if you have to, but don’t go on about it !!! Nobody likes vultures !
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As I said, nothing wrong with going after slots, so long as its not used as a cheap publicity stunt.
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You are a very angry little man. Why?
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Well, I am sorry to disagree with most of you guys (and gals). LHR is totally congested, to such a degree that night flying has become a necessity (for some). Apparently only 16 flights will be affected by this (Big Deal !!!). Perhaps it is now time to kiss Terminal 5 goodbye and consider the other airports around London such as Luton and Stansted. It's bad enough having to fly (as crew) between 2330 hrs and 0600 hrs. Why would passengers wish to fly at that time ? The only flights which will be seriously affected are long-haul flights from the Far East which arrive first thing (before 6 am). They will now all come in at 6am sharp and make ATC earn their keep. Most passengers are happy to fly between 0600 and 2300. Only greedy f**kers like Easyjet will need to operate at 'stupid o'clock' to make their silly 'pauper scheme' pay.
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Why is that f@ tw@ Stelios so obsessed with this route to Belfast ? What is he trying to prove ? He has one great advantage over BA, though. He can probably make this route pay, despite the high landing fees at LHR, by asking his easySh*t flight crews to clean the cabin and the toilets on the way out, thus saving the cost of cleaners. Could work, couldn't it ? Believe it or not, those muppets would do it as well otherwise they would have never passed these easySh*t psychometric tests !!!! I bet you guys wondered what these silly questions were all about !? Ever wondered why Stelios is overweight ? He regularly eats at McDonalds. For those of you who don't, it's a place where the restaurant manager is expected to sweep up fries and clean the toilets (to lead by example!). Now you know where Stelios got his marvellous ideas !!!
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I think we all ought to stop using the term easySh*t. Stelios might decide to branch out and market a new laxative !
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Credibility issue
Has anyone ever considered the possibility that business people might feel embarrassed travelling on easyjet ? Imagine travelling to Europe to close a major deal, only to be caught out arriving on easyjet, or worse arriving in an easyRentacar !!). Many business people spend more on a business lunch than what some folks pay for easyjet seats. As for Stelios’ car rental business, you can hire a real Mercedes for next to nothing. Impressive value for money ! Shame it has those cheesy orange easyAdverts stuck all over it. Get real !!!!
Slots
As regards the slot issue. If EZE wants to mix with the big boys at LHR, then perhaps they should take a gamble and service some ‘big boy’ routes, where 100% load factors are not so EZE to achieve.
… and finally
Easyjet is for people who simply cannot afford to fly and who would otherwise be travelling by train. This obviously explains why EZE cannot charge more than the rail companies.
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Ghost-rider
If your comments are anything to go by, you are probably all of 22 years old and still sitting in the r/h seat (if not selling sandwiches in the back). My personal issue is not with you or your fellow EZY aircrew, but the way in which your company’s PR department is seeking to take advantage of recent events. Anything for a cheap publicity stunt !!! Go for the slots, if you have to, but don’t go on about it !!! Nobody likes vultures !
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Stabtrim
As I said, nothing wrong with going after slots, so long as its not used as a cheap publicity stunt.
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Get your head out of the sand. Value based airlines are here to stay because people want them and they fly on them. I have worked for eJ and don't know what your problem is, other than the fact that you feel threatened. Right now I work for a national carrier which effectively manipulates the local market to fund the full service operation. It is only a matter of time before a VBA will force another round of cost cutting, but we will never be able to compete. There are too many costs which cannot be dropped. Money = time; some pax have more time to conduct their journey and therefore save real money.
I concede that VBA's have the opportunity to pick the eyes out of a market and avoid unprofitable routes, but surely that is market forces at work? If a full service carrier persists with an unprofitable route it simply means that main trunk pax are subsidising that service. Why should they? Perhaps that destination would be better served by a 3rd level, higher frequency operation.
Back to the thread. It seems responsible for the EU to preserve the ability of trans-Atlantic carriers to rebuild their frequency to the USA over the next two years. But why offer protection on European routes if someone else can make money now? The airports won't make any money from empty slots and you might be surprised to find that most people would rather travel on a VBA than on the surface.
Get your head out of the sand. Value based airlines are here to stay because people want them and they fly on them. I have worked for eJ and don't know what your problem is, other than the fact that you feel threatened. Right now I work for a national carrier which effectively manipulates the local market to fund the full service operation. It is only a matter of time before a VBA will force another round of cost cutting, but we will never be able to compete. There are too many costs which cannot be dropped. Money = time; some pax have more time to conduct their journey and therefore save real money.
I concede that VBA's have the opportunity to pick the eyes out of a market and avoid unprofitable routes, but surely that is market forces at work? If a full service carrier persists with an unprofitable route it simply means that main trunk pax are subsidising that service. Why should they? Perhaps that destination would be better served by a 3rd level, higher frequency operation.
Back to the thread. It seems responsible for the EU to preserve the ability of trans-Atlantic carriers to rebuild their frequency to the USA over the next two years. But why offer protection on European routes if someone else can make money now? The airports won't make any money from empty slots and you might be surprised to find that most people would rather travel on a VBA than on the surface.
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Adopts scouse accent, dons shellsuit and frizzy wig... 
ALL RIGHT.....ALL RIGHT.......
....CALM DOWN....CALM DOWN....
Back to Normal swash
Maybe we should have a special 'EZY demands BA slots @ Gatwick' PPRuNe bash in the OBOE, so that y'all can come along and slag each other face-to-face...??
Sure Dubya could come down and record the sports....
[ 13 October 2001: Message edited by: swashplate ]
ALL RIGHT.....ALL RIGHT.......
....CALM DOWN....CALM DOWN....
Back to Normal swash
Maybe we should have a special 'EZY demands BA slots @ Gatwick' PPRuNe bash in the OBOE, so that y'all can come along and slag each other face-to-face...??
Sure Dubya could come down and record the sports....
[ 13 October 2001: Message edited by: swashplate ]
