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Old 1st Nov 2013, 21:18
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The U.S. became a police state after 911.

Even the local cops have become over-reactive and jack boot thugs where I live half way between LAX and SAN.
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 21:28
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Another incident of this nature in a country vastly overpopulated with gun toters!

Now one thousand cops, rangers, sherrifs, deputies, bailiffs, marshalls, Feds, and a multitude of badge wearers issued with a blue lites on their car will form an orderly line of traffic and race to the scene.......in an attempt to create the illusion of being useful!


Standby for an overreaction on a colossal scale that only those in the USA are capable of organising.
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 21:36
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The guy is a TSA agent, no one was killed, seven people, including the suspect, were injured.

Paul Anthony Ciancia Identified As LAX Shooting Suspect
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 21:44
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Incorrect - TSA employee dead.

""I am deeply saddened to inform you that a TSA employee was shot and killed today on duty at Los Angeles International Airport," said TSA administrator John Pistole in a message to employees. "Other TSA employees also were injured in the shooting."

"The gunman is in custody and we are working with local law enforcement to help insure the safety of our employees," he said."
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 22:07
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LAX shooting

John Pistole? Are you making this stuff up?
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 23:26
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That's all very interesting, but I really would like the latest METAR just to complete the picture...
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 23:44
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That's it, no yogurt within 1/4 mile of LAX now.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 00:06
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I think you're onto something.
Maybe not a straight domestic, but maybe a guy with some head problems and a weapon?
Why did he think he had a mortal grudge with TSA?
There are some claims that he was a TSA employee, which I can't substantiate. Maybe he applied for TSA and failed the screening?
He clearly appears to have targeted TSA staff, so there may well be a personal motive.
Who knows? I'll bet we'll find out, though.
Boarderline crazies are out there and most of us have worked with or around one of them. I had one such boarderline guy hired to work under me. He was hired by my superior without my input. I desperately wanted to get rid of him, since I had figured him out as a real problem child. Fortunately, he got rid of himself by sucker punching another new hire at our training academy. He actually called another person who reported to me afterward and made personal threats involving me. I told her that if he ever called again, she should transfer the call to me, or that she could just tell him to grow a pair and threaten me to my face, maybe not my wisest move. Combine a boarderline personality with a sense of grievance and a weapon and you can have a really bad day.
The local authorities responded appropriately based upon the limited information they had.
We've had awful events involving hijacked aircraft in this country and we've had terrible mass shooting events.
The authorities reacted with both in mind even though that reaction turned out to be overkill in this instance.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 00:47
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The local KABC TV news seems to be painting the incident as a lone gunman with a death wish scenario. They report that a "note" was found which "indicates" that the gunman "expected to die" and had an "anti-government bent". An "AR-15 type" rifle was reportedly used by the shooter and images shown on the news show a rifle laying on the floor of the terminal. Airport cops stationed in the area reportedly responded "immediately" and shot the subject before taking him into custody. The subject is reportedly hospitalized in critical condition at UCLA hospital. 1 TSA agent dead with multiple GSWs to the abdomen and more injured, though none critically.

A media briefing with the Mayor, the FBI, airport and LAPD chiefs was held at about 16:00 PDT and terminals 1 and 2 were re-opened shortly thereafter. Terminal 3 is closed until further notice. At least 6 News choppers were seen hovering just south of the airport from shortly after the shooting and a few are still there as of this moment. Traffic in the communities surrounding the airport is in gridlock and has been for hours. It took me a little longer to get home from work but that's just life when you live next to LAX.

I'm sure of just one thing: This story will last several news cycles. The President is reportedly going to comment publicly on it.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 05:23
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Going "Postal" on the TSA was bound to happen in this country. One sick person aiming his frustrations at the group of people instituted to protect this country's airports (they are far from trained curious professionals) from many experiences. You have to keep in mind the drastic police state mentality that has has changed over the last decade+. The large divide politically. Out of 330m people, one suicidal person focused his anger. Has nothing to do with firearm law, the politicians and media will twist and turn this to the extreme.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 11:06
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According to Slate’s gun-death tracker, an estimated 10,064 people have died as a result of gun violence in America since the Newtown massacre on December 14, 2012.
This doesn't include suicides (where someone else isn't killed)
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 12:52
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However, if it's any comfort to you, the Brits are now just as bad!
Town centre closed of last Saturday because of a ruksack in a litter bin. Controlled explosion, nothing nasty found.

But ... rumours of other "interesting" things happening at the same time. Over-reaction? Dry run? Testing the response?
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 12:58
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That's all very interesting, but I really would like the latest METAR just to complete the picture...
Haha! Brilliant!
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 13:19
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Now one thousand cops, rangers, sherrifs, deputies, bailiffs, marshalls, Feds, and a multitude of badge wearers issued with a blue lites on their car will form an orderly line of traffic and race to the scene.......in an attempt to create the illusion of being useful!
Experienced that once whilst on a Job in South Beach Miami. More cops, vehicles and flashing light than I ever seen, even in a movie !!

Turned out some black guy had nicked a pushbike from behind a deli and they were apprehending him

When the call goes out, they just cannot resist getting involved !!
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 13:46
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While I deplore any unnecessary injury or loss of life, I feel this would have been more understandable had it been a crew member turning the gun on the TSA.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 14:44
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Just another case of a country overpopulated with crazies and guns. Damn lucky this guy didn't kill another twenty before he was brought down.

Con Pilot, don't know where you got a connection between this guy and the TSA, but I don't think he ever worked for the TSA?

The once great USA is slowly, no maybe rapidly descending into a third world carnival. Kind of pathetic.

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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 15:26
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The once great USA is slowly, no maybe rapidly descending into a third world carnival. Kind of pathetic.
All great nations/civilizations have and will fail. Have a look at homicide rates per capita. Certainly quality of life and social services are more substantial factors. The USA has some of the most liberal gun laws of any country, it is impossible to relate them to the level of violence. The gun laws written into the constitution of the USA are there to prevent oppression, the same oppression most people escape when immigrating to the USA.

There many who will argue what I have said here, I will not reply, I did not start the thread drift and will not promote it further. Mentally ill person kills someone, it has happened a thousand times globally since the incident we speak of. Not even news worthy. The news in LA should have concentrated on the delay at the airport, would have been more useful.

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