View Poll Results: Did your Company Council ask its Pilots who to nominate for Gen Sec ?
Yes, officially.
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6.57%
Not at all.
126
91.97%
Some CC members asked around unofficially.
2
1.46%
Voters: 137. This poll is closed
BALPA Gen. Sec. Elections
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Nobody asked me. And I'm voting John Frohnsdorff. I see on CD's site, he can't even spell Brymon properly, and seems to think we have only been a BALPA Company for less than a year!!!
Spin, spin and more spin.
Spin, spin and more spin.
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A short perusal of these websites would make your mind up!
http://www.competition-commission.org.uk/about/christopherdarke.htm (ignore the picture)
and
http://www.competition-commission.org.uk/review/cc2000.pdf go to page 19 (Adobe Acrobat needed)
I never knew our Gen Sec had the time or energy left after working on our behalf to take up all these Quango jobs!
http://www.competition-commission.org.uk/about/christopherdarke.htm (ignore the picture)
and
http://www.competition-commission.org.uk/review/cc2000.pdf go to page 19 (Adobe Acrobat needed)
I never knew our Gen Sec had the time or energy left after working on our behalf to take up all these Quango jobs!
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I've also read both of the candidate's manifestos, and one would have to say that Chris Darke's manifesto is much more polished and professional. However, slickness and polish are utterly irrelevant in an election where a fundamental point of principle is at stake.
I have no doubt that BALPA hierarchy have angered the membership at large, and the kind of hubris displayed inevitably leads to a comeuppance. I am sure that the magnificently acccoutred French would have been rated as the more polished and slick before Agincourt.
We live in interesting times, and I for one am not betting on Chris Darke's survival. However, with John Frohnsdorff stating that he will stand down on election, those who would seek to be General Secretary would be well advised to sharpen their own manifestos immediately.
I have no doubt that BALPA hierarchy have angered the membership at large, and the kind of hubris displayed inevitably leads to a comeuppance. I am sure that the magnificently acccoutred French would have been rated as the more polished and slick before Agincourt.
We live in interesting times, and I for one am not betting on Chris Darke's survival. However, with John Frohnsdorff stating that he will stand down on election, those who would seek to be General Secretary would be well advised to sharpen their own manifestos immediately.
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Like so many people I object to the cosy boys club BALPA appears to have become. No, I wasn't asked who I would want as GS. This would have gone through "on the nod" if not for JF. It was no contest. Cross in the box for JF and form returned. Time for some change.
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I have been flying commercially for nearly ten years the time
that Chris Darke has served as our General Secretary ,during
this time the standing of our profession has dropped to such
a level that we are now regarded as mere bus drivers of the
air, our salaries are constantly being eroded relative to the
ever rising cost of living and tax burden under the present
government!
On joining the airlines ten years ago you could expect private
healthcare a final salary pension and even crew meals! Now
we work harder than ever and we can get a small discount
if we purchase private healthcare a worthless money purchase
pension scheme and we have to buy our food on the aircraft
so much for the achievements of BALPA during the ten years
under Chris Darke.
In ten years as a member of BALPA the only thing they have
negotiated for me was to have me made redundant from the
job I greatly enjoyed at Virgin Atlantic, I like most of the other
members I know remain a member of BALPA only as an
insurance policy we hope never to use, time for a change of
General Secretary I suggest lets have one who will fight for
our interests.
that Chris Darke has served as our General Secretary ,during
this time the standing of our profession has dropped to such
a level that we are now regarded as mere bus drivers of the
air, our salaries are constantly being eroded relative to the
ever rising cost of living and tax burden under the present
government!
On joining the airlines ten years ago you could expect private
healthcare a final salary pension and even crew meals! Now
we work harder than ever and we can get a small discount
if we purchase private healthcare a worthless money purchase
pension scheme and we have to buy our food on the aircraft
so much for the achievements of BALPA during the ten years
under Chris Darke.
In ten years as a member of BALPA the only thing they have
negotiated for me was to have me made redundant from the
job I greatly enjoyed at Virgin Atlantic, I like most of the other
members I know remain a member of BALPA only as an
insurance policy we hope never to use, time for a change of
General Secretary I suggest lets have one who will fight for
our interests.
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Yes CF, but you must remember that CD has been doing stirling work with such things as the aquisition by SCR-Sibelco SA of Fife Silica Sands.
http://www.competition-commission.or...ases/02-01.htm
http://www.competition-commission.or...ases/02-01.htm
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I'm confused !
If you go to http://www.competition-commission.or...opherdarke.htm
you get the bio of 'David Stark' (which looks like it should be that of Chris Darke) - and a picture of someone who must be Mr Stark cos it ain't Mr Darke. Maybe it is all a big mistake and Mr Darke does not participate in any of these organisations.
Mr Stark can be found at http://www.competition-commission.or...davidstark.htm and that is not Mr Darke !
Anyone throw some light on this one !
If you go to http://www.competition-commission.or...opherdarke.htm
you get the bio of 'David Stark' (which looks like it should be that of Chris Darke) - and a picture of someone who must be Mr Stark cos it ain't Mr Darke. Maybe it is all a big mistake and Mr Darke does not participate in any of these organisations.
Mr Stark can be found at http://www.competition-commission.or...davidstark.htm and that is not Mr Darke !
Anyone throw some light on this one !
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flappless - a task for you
1) Visit (as you refer) Mr Darke, competition commission and see the pride with which he refers to his 'BALPA' duties and achievements - is that him? OK the picture is of a 'fatter cat' and shaved to avoid discovery?
2) Then visit Mr Darke (Balpa) web site and see how PROUDLY he portrays his involvement with the competition commission.
Enough light in the Darke?
1) Visit (as you refer) Mr Darke, competition commission and see the pride with which he refers to his 'BALPA' duties and achievements - is that him? OK the picture is of a 'fatter cat' and shaved to avoid discovery?
2) Then visit Mr Darke (Balpa) web site and see how PROUDLY he portrays his involvement with the competition commission.
Enough light in the Darke?