Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Rumours & News
Reload this Page >

1.3 tonne of Cocaine found onboard an Air France aircraft in Paris...

Wikiposts
Search
Rumours & News Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives as professional pilots. Also, items that may be of interest to professional pilots.

1.3 tonne of Cocaine found onboard an Air France aircraft in Paris...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 14:32
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: CYUL
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
1.3 tonne of Cocaine found onboard an Air France aircraft in Paris...

For sure an inside job with ramp employees part of the scheme.

Poor Air France... Can’t catch a break!


Yahoo News Canada - Latest News & Headlines

Last edited by Jet Jockey A4; 23rd Sep 2013 at 14:34.
Jet Jockey A4 is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 15:02
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 30 Miles from the A1
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
Is that a record for the most expensive amount of hold cargo in one ac??
Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb!
2Planks is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 15:22
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just shows how easy it is to plant a bomb in a random suitcase and put it on a flight.
LTNman is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 15:46
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: CYUL
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Couldn't agree more.

All these security measures are for "show" only.
Jet Jockey A4 is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 16:04
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
Just shows how easy it is to plant a bomb in a random suitcase and put it on a flight.
Only if you assume that everyone who's prepared to look the other way to facilitate the loading of a tonne of coke would be equally happy to play a part in blowing an aircraft full of passengers out of the sky.
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 16:07
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LIRE
Age: 49
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You don't tell it is a bomb, a plain box looks the same either full of cocaine or tnt
Paolo6691 is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 16:18
  #7 (permalink)  

"Mildly" Eccentric Stardriver
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: England
Age: 77
Posts: 4,142
Received 224 Likes on 66 Posts
I presume the whole loading team were in on it? What happened to bag/pax reconciliation, or does that only apply in Europe.
Herod is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 16:42
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
probably half the airport staff were in on it - or at least knew enough to "look the other way"
Heathrow Harry is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 16:46
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Róisín Dubh
Posts: 1,389
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
Over 30 suitcases registered with names of people not on the aircraft. Shocking lapse in security.

And what the hell were they thinking doing this on the 11th of September? If there was one day you can gurantee extra checks will be made....
Una Due Tfc is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 17:00
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: behind the fruit
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What happened to bag/pax reconciliation, or does that only apply in Europe.
All it takes is a corrupt/rogue dispatcher and baggage team leader.
Usually temping staff on a (next to) minimum wage.

I did it once as a seasonal temp worker at a major UK airport, after 2 weeks on the job I was left on my own to make the final call on pax/bag reconciliation.
LEGAL TENDER is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 17:00
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is really quite remarkable!

Every time I have transited through CDG with AF, they have only managed to lose my suitcases.
PilotsOfTheCaribbean is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 17:02
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Burrow, N53:48:02 W1:48:57, The Tin Tent - EGBS, EGBO
Posts: 2,297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
what the hell were they thinking doing this on the 11th of September?
Do you know something which none of the rest of us do? According to Reuters:
They (ie Air France) did not give a precise date. That said, it was a frightening lapse of security - or was it? Until we know more, who is to say that some of the airport security staff were not behind it? If they were, then would it not be reasonable to assume that they would have taken every possible measure to ensure such a valuable cargo reached its destination? How many previous consignments have already been sent prior to this one?
DX Wombat is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 17:53
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Róisín Dubh
Posts: 1,389
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
It was reported on France24 (a tv news station) as having occured on September 11th

Last edited by Una Due Tfc; 23rd Sep 2013 at 17:53.
Una Due Tfc is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 18:00
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Scotland
Age: 79
Posts: 807
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From the Yahoo News site in the first post:

"Pending the results of these investigations, immediate measures have been taken to enhance our checks of baggage and goods on departure from certain sensitive destinations," the airline said in a statement.
Gobbledegook
broadreach is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 18:41
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Burrow, N53:48:02 W1:48:57, The Tin Tent - EGBS, EGBO
Posts: 2,297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you UDT.
DX Wombat is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 18:50
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Following the sun and skiing... No snow involved just Spending the Kids Inheritance!
Age: 79
Posts: 175
Received 5 Likes on 1 Post
Only SLF and student PPL (failed!) here so go easy with me please guys. Obviously I have no intimate knowledge of how the ramp operates and the first thought that came to my mind was the fuel calculation. Would this extra 1.3 tonnes have been notified to the flight deck? If not, could it have been a safety issue? Also, if not notified, would the then inaccurate weight/balance calculation have compromised safety?
Tigger4Me is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 18:51
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Midlands
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thing that gets me about this (speaking as someone that is also a Special Constable) is that suppliers and dealers wouldn't just move 1.3T in one go the first time they try the 'route'.

This must have been going on for months or years moving numerous smaller loads to 'route test' to check that they could actually move it through the system before you go for 1.3T of pure white.


Which begs the question - how much more cocaine has moved through CDG in this manner before this haul got caught?
Burnie5204 is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 19:18
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Definitely inside. Back in the 60s my father worked the YWG ramp for AC. Called home one night to say "I'll be late". Got in 4AM, had been grilled by RCMP re hash on AC Western Arrow (LHR-YWG-YVR). Actually it was Dad that found it on top of a ceiling panel in a rear loo. Was LHR staff working with ME contacts.

Also in the 80s, packets of blow were found in mx spaces on the wings of A320s working MBJ-YWG. To access these spaces you need a special tool, not just a Robertson screwdriver. So it was obviously not SLF trying to mule something.
connies4ever is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 19:28
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tring, UK
Posts: 1,847
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Would this extra 1.3 tonnes have been notified to the flight deck?
Yes, on the NOTOC: Benzoylmethylecgonine, 1,300Kg

It would make a great 'nosebag' for the crew party!
FullWings is offline  
Old 23rd Sep 2013, 19:53
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: The Winchester
Posts: 6,555
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
French language report here:

1,3 tonne interceptée à Roissy. Saisie record de cocaïne - Paris Match

Mentions that Venezuelan authorities have arrested 3 soldiers (?guards).
wiggy is online now  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.