Orenair B738 at Rostov on Sep 3rd 2013, overran runway on landing

[fireflybob]

Another runway overrun:-

Incident: Orenair B738 at Rostov on Sep 3rd 2013, overran runway on landing

From Aviation Herald:-

An Orenair Boeing 737-800, registration VP-BPY performing flight R2-9558 from Antalya (Turkey) to Rostov (Russia), landed on Rostov's wet runway 22 at 12:55L (08:55Z) but overran the end of the runway and came to a stop with all wheels on soft ground. There are no injuries being reported, the aircraft received no visible damage but needs a good wash. The passengers disembarked through the left hand main door onto soft ground via mobile stairs.

Radar data suggest the aircraft was on final approach at normal landing speeds until descending through about 1800 feet MSL, then the aircraft appeared to be accelerating over ground by about 20 knots until 700 feet MSL landing at a higher than normal speed over ground.

[DOVES]

Great weather for a picnic. Just a little wet. And windy from the tail.
Try to fly safely

[fox niner]

Good grief...

This is the SECOND overrun that this poor aircraft has experienced.
See this report on an overrun in 2011 in Nizhny Novgorod with the VP-BPY:

Incident: Orenair B738 at Nizhny Novgorod on Dec 7th 2011, runway excursion on landing

[flyboyike]

That airplane is clearly bad luck. They should trade it in for one not as overrun-prone.

[F-16GUY]

May I suggest a hook and drag-chute retrofit?

[Bus14]

They should trade it in for one not as overrun-prone.

Anything that's not a B738 should do, they do seem to spend a lot of time in the mud, or worse.

[oceancrosser]

Someone posted this list of overruns in Rostov on Avherald:

-Donavia B734 Jan 30th 2010
- Rossiya A319 Jun 11th 2011
- Donavia B734 Apr 12th 2011
- UTAir B735 Jul 23rd 2011
- Globus B734 Apr 6th 2012
- Yakutia B738 Dec 1st 2012
- S7 A319 Jan 12th 2013
- Ural A320 Aug 4th 2013
- Orenair B738 Sep 3rd 2013

9 in 3,5 years. 2/3s by 737s. Do 737s represent 66% of operations at that airport? If not, thats worrisome.

[SMT Member]

If not, thats worrisome.

My I suggest the really worrying bit is that this airport has experienced 9 overruns in 3.5 years and yet, for some mysterious reason, is still open for business?

[oceancrosser]

Ok, you´ve got a point. The Jepps have a notation about runway 22 that the last third is slippery when wet (in addition to being downslope).
Maybe a good idea not to use 22 in tailwinds and rain?

[nitpicker330]

Oh come on, don't suggest common sense and Airmanship!!

[Sqwak7700]

Would not be surprised if the runway is never de-rubberized. That stuff is like ice when it gets wet. One of the reasons you should never reach the last third of a runway with too much energy (ie, roll to the end for a convenient turnoff).

Found this pic that gives a pretty good idea of the downward slope and the heavy rubber deposits. There are also no turnoffs from midfield to the end, enticing crews to "keep it rolling".

Photos: - Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

An airport with so many overruns should really have a close look at what it is doing wrong.

[Charliedontsurf_83]

rwy22 ROV

that's thrue, this particular rwy has a hump just after the treshhold..then it goes downslope all the way.
so basically you'are compelled to overshoot the landing point and then you don't have much runway left anyway (2500 LDA totally)...now just add a poor braking action and you got perfect conditions for a runway overrun.

[transilvana]

that runway is a pain when wet, really slipery like many others in russia even in Moscow.

[safetypee]

“slippery when wet”

ICAO Cir 329 Runway Surface Condition Assessment, Measurement and Reporting.

4.64. Additionally a NOTAM “slippery when wet” may be issued whenever a significant portion of a runway drops below the Minimum Friction Level (MFL) as indicated in Table A-1 of Annex 14 or as determined by the state.

6.46. The FAA Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) working on Takeoff and Landing Performance Assessment (TALPA) recommends reducing the effective braking action for a wet runway from “good” to “medium” when the runway is designated as slippery when wet.

[phiggsbroadband]

Looking at the runway photos, it seems obvious that an additional 1000ft of runway overshoot could be built. However the grass portion that is there at present could be sufficiently strong to allow aircraft to taxi.... We don't know how 'muddy' it is.

[transilvana]

Just watched it this afternoon at 50 mts, we vacated by A taxiway, end of the runway. You can not turn there by means of engine power, real mud, you can see that they were deep stuck.