LH tail strike in ORD
SMT, he did say ...
"No journalist, no pilot, just SLF and curious"
"No journalist, no pilot, just SLF and curious"
Person Of Interest
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Keystone Heights, Florida
Age: 68
Posts: 842
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Standard procedure in the B-727 and 737 is if a tailstrike is suspected, the first item on the checklist, if I remember correctly is to level at 3,000 AGL and depressurize the A/C...
After that, (and this is because of the JAL 747 accident) you are to land ASAP...
Not slagging anyone or any particular manufacturer, but I thought those types of things were not supposed to happen on the "Magic Bus"....
(Isn't that why they don't have tail-skids?)
After that, (and this is because of the JAL 747 accident) you are to land ASAP...
Not slagging anyone or any particular manufacturer, but I thought those types of things were not supposed to happen on the "Magic Bus"....
(Isn't that why they don't have tail-skids?)
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SLF, living somewhere East in the West
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
@ SMT - I may not have a clue and I am always upfront that I am not part of your industry (even put that in the location to avoid comments like yours as I know people here are very touchy about these things). No need therefore to get dismissive. Maybe enlighten me instead why I do not have a clue?
Last edited by grimmrad; 11th Apr 2013 at 02:12.
You've twice referenced the crash involving the JAL 747. One would thus assume (dangerous word, I know) that you had some knowledge of the crash, and the investigation following it. I just find it odd that you would reference such a case, without knowing anything about it.
But, for what it's worth, the repair on the JAL 747 was indeed carried out by a team from Boeing. The investigation revealed, however, that they failed to install a double row of fasteners as per the repair manual, which eventually lead to the failure of the aft pressure dome and subsequent crash.
I have no input of any value to offer on this incident, and suspect the same is true for everybody except those few with access to the investigation, be that BFU or LH staff.
But, for what it's worth, the repair on the JAL 747 was indeed carried out by a team from Boeing. The investigation revealed, however, that they failed to install a double row of fasteners as per the repair manual, which eventually lead to the failure of the aft pressure dome and subsequent crash.
I have no input of any value to offer on this incident, and suspect the same is true for everybody except those few with access to the investigation, be that BFU or LH staff.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SLF, living somewhere East in the West
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
SMT - with respect to the JAL crash, I read over it on Wikipedia and I believe also the accident report itself. So, I had some baseline clue and I knew that Boing did not repair it correctly - but certainly not any expertise on it.
I guess my point was - even though the LH incident was said not to involve the pressure dome the JAL had a repair done by Boing so you would assume everything is OK then boarding that plane. Well, it wasn't. So, all I meant was if I were to board the LH 330 I would feel uncomfortable knowing that it had that incident and that in other cases in spite of a seemingly expert repair it came down at the end. But I guess this is diverting from the main topic anyway.
I guess my point was - even though the LH incident was said not to involve the pressure dome the JAL had a repair done by Boing so you would assume everything is OK then boarding that plane. Well, it wasn't. So, all I meant was if I were to board the LH 330 I would feel uncomfortable knowing that it had that incident and that in other cases in spite of a seemingly expert repair it came down at the end. But I guess this is diverting from the main topic anyway.
Last edited by grimmrad; 11th Apr 2013 at 14:19.
I guess my point was - even though the LH incident was said not to involve the pressure dome the JAL had a repair done by Boing so you would assume everything is OK then boarding that plane. Well, it wasn't. So, all I meant was if I were to board the LH 330 I would feel uncomfortable knowing that it had that incident and that in other cases in spite of a seemingly expert repair it came down at the end.
Of course in this latest case we don't have many facts for us to judge
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: near EDDF
Posts: 775
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you take a look at the attachment 1 in the investigation report of JAL 123 (page 259ff.) you find the severe damage to the aircraft.
The damage the LH Airbus suffer in ORD is "peanuts" compared to that.
Aircraft Accident Report, English translation (55,1MB)
No, this would sound like scraping. 
The damage the LH Airbus suffer in ORD is "peanuts" compared to that.
Aircraft Accident Report, English translation (55,1MB)
Originally Posted by JW411
Yes; but Boing is the sort of noise likely to be created by a tailstrike.
