An Emirates' A380 door "pops" in-flight
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Just had a hilarious conversation with my daughter who is an Emirates Cabin Crew. She is incandescent with rage about the DM story, ironically enough she has just had to pass her safety procedures re-certification tests this week and pointed out that using the blankets to muffle the sound is a standard procedure in the safety manual. I'd be surprised as everyone else here if one of the Cabin Crew was screaming over such a trivial incident, maybe the screaming the passenger was hearing was his own. It could account for his 'chest infection'
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You couldn't make this up, not that it hinders the Daily Wail...
Holding in wind during flights is bad for your body claims scientists who suggest flatulence-absorbing solutions | Mail Online
If you apply the DM's theory of gas pressure equalisation to this scenario it could get really nasty...
No - I'll leave it to your imagination!
Holding in wind during flights is bad for your body claims scientists who suggest flatulence-absorbing solutions | Mail Online
If you apply the DM's theory of gas pressure equalisation to this scenario it could get really nasty...
No - I'll leave it to your imagination!
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I love it - this is the most fun thread I've read in ages (with due respect to the serious posts). Please don't give up, Ppruners.
But this took the biscuit:
The B747 has been flying for forty (40 - that's 40) years. And the A380 has been flying for - um - let me see now . . .
But this took the biscuit:
The B747 has killed 2852 persons. At least 49 B747 were completely destroyed, crashed.
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Most hilarious article! Cannot believe it was published without confirming the facts first! Don't go circling things in RED if you have no clue what they mean!
I had a good laugh about this with all of my fellow A380 colleagues!
Curtains separating classes?
Doors opening inwards?
Fitting under a jump seat?
AIP is the new DSIP!!!???
We need this article as an SEP training excercise...'spot the difference!?'
I had a good laugh about this with all of my fellow A380 colleagues!
Curtains separating classes?
Doors opening inwards?
Fitting under a jump seat?
AIP is the new DSIP!!!???
We need this article as an SEP training excercise...'spot the difference!?'
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On a serious note, an article which claims that a door was 'wide open' while showing a picture of a closed door with a few blankets around the bottom shows exactly how stupid the DM thinks its readers are. :-(
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Travelbug ~ the image with the mysterious panel circled in red is the replacement image. The same article used to look like this:
Somebody must have told them the AIP has always been green and only green, so they had to grasp further to make this scene look "terrifying."
Somebody must have told them the AIP has always been green and only green, so they had to grasp further to make this scene look "terrifying."
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and another one
A380 out of LHR to DXB EK006 11th Feb. RHS door at the back of business.
Lots of whooshing noise deadened by blankets and passengers moved away because of noise. No panic, no screaming but it sounds like a possible generic problem?
Lots of whooshing noise deadened by blankets and passengers moved away because of noise. No panic, no screaming but it sounds like a possible generic problem?
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I have never compared the A380 to the B747. I have compared the whole fleet of FBW Airbuses (319/320/330/340/380, more than 5000 built) to the B747 alone (less than 1500 built). Result: the B747 has killed more people than the whole FBW Airbus fleet ever built. 49 B747 have crashed, completely destroyed (more than 2800 people killed), last time not so long time ago, but I don't hear you saying "history of near desaster" let alone "history of disaster" each time a B747 is mentioned.
No need to speak about "recent history of near disaster" (and I was answering to this sentence initially) here with the A380 without looking like a stupid witch hunt.
The B747 has been flying for forty (40 - that's 40) years. And the A380 has been flying for - um - let me see now . . .
No need to speak about "recent history of near disaster" (and I was answering to this sentence initially) here with the A380 without looking like a stupid witch hunt.
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The fact that KAG couldn't remeber Tenerife or KAL 007 (just to begin a short list) before posting speaks volumes. Next thing we'll be hearing from him is that US construction and zoning are at fault for 3 of the four 9/11/01 incidents. Oh wait, all four of those were Boeing's fault too, I guess...
Puhleez...
Puhleez...
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The reputation has stuck. The QF A380 "event" cemented it.
Indeed, LongLander.
Since you mention cement, we now have proof that the A380 is built like a brick sh!thouse.
No-one can simulate the results of such an incident on another plane, but the A380 engines are much smaller and the wing structure much thicker than on a 777, for example.
Since you mention cement, we now have proof that the A380 is built like a brick sh!thouse.
No-one can simulate the results of such an incident on another plane, but the A380 engines are much smaller and the wing structure much thicker than on a 777, for example.
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A380 door racks
A mate at MAS tells me they have changed 3 upperdeck doors on their A380s recently.
One door had a 5 inch cracked in it, which was easily visible from the inside with daylight shining through !
Fairly reliable bloke, I have no reason to doubt him.
Cheers !
One door had a 5 inch cracked in it, which was easily visible from the inside with daylight shining through !
Fairly reliable bloke, I have no reason to doubt him.
Cheers !
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Daily Mail. Bless. Hope Emirates will not order an invetigation into the crew's response. Reminds me that the same paper, over a quarter of a century ago, reported, in the same headline grabbing manner, a B757 incident outa TFS together with a cartoon contribution too. Stuff like "Hero passenger stops airliner take-off". Twerps in Commercial ordered a full internal inquiry. Clowns in 'Management' believed the Daily Mail & my mate nearly lost his career. Better for Emirates to legally pursue the DM for grossly inaccurate reporting.
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To a few enthousiasts posters here: you missed the point.
Somebody mentionned the "near disaster history" with the Airbus 380. To what I reply that's bullcr@p, as Boeing has its share of disaster too but nobody jump on it like that, Boeing had planes that fell down from the sky too, but when it comes to Airbus this is all about disaster scary bed stories only. I spoke about the B747 alone (more than 2800 persons died in B747 disasters, more than the whole FBW entire Airbus fleet), but if you take Boeing in its whole, that's thousands, thousands, thousands of people who died (including in recent times), the disaster history actually do exist with Boeing, no need to play the witch hunt with Airbus: Boeing is not better (in fact worse) in accident rate, death, and hull loss. However everybody seems to think the opposite, that is called brainwhashing.
Somebody mentionned the "near disaster history" with the Airbus 380. To what I reply that's bullcr@p, as Boeing has its share of disaster too but nobody jump on it like that, Boeing had planes that fell down from the sky too, but when it comes to Airbus this is all about disaster scary bed stories only. I spoke about the B747 alone (more than 2800 persons died in B747 disasters, more than the whole FBW entire Airbus fleet), but if you take Boeing in its whole, that's thousands, thousands, thousands of people who died (including in recent times), the disaster history actually do exist with Boeing, no need to play the witch hunt with Airbus: Boeing is not better (in fact worse) in accident rate, death, and hull loss. However everybody seems to think the opposite, that is called brainwhashing.
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I am the poor soul who mentioned the A380's history. I didn't intend to set off an A-versus-B flame-fest.
In my original post, I was merely pointing out:
(a) that leaky seals can be much more disturbing to passengers than some posters here seem to appreciate; and
(b) Some passengers are wary about flying on new types which they view as being 'beta-tested in service'. The Qantas A380 incident and the 787 problems arguably provide justification for this prejudice.
A combination of (a) + (b) leads to a non-event an an Emirates A380 being blown up out of all proportion. All I'm saying is, one shouldn't be entirely surprised by this.
In my original post, I was merely pointing out:
(a) that leaky seals can be much more disturbing to passengers than some posters here seem to appreciate; and
(b) Some passengers are wary about flying on new types which they view as being 'beta-tested in service'. The Qantas A380 incident and the 787 problems arguably provide justification for this prejudice.
A combination of (a) + (b) leads to a non-event an an Emirates A380 being blown up out of all proportion. All I'm saying is, one shouldn't be entirely surprised by this.
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I have never compared the A380 to the B747. I have compared the whole fleet of FBW Airbuses (319/320/330/340/380, more than 5000 built) to the B747 alone (less than 1500 built).
How valid are comparisons of accident stats between B747 and A380?
Correct me if I am wrong but when the B747 was introduced to service there were no other airliners flying around which could carry 300 + passengers and this remained the case for many years.
The A380 has been flying for a much shorter and it remains to be seen how "safe" it is statistically speaking.
Another factor is that items such as EGPWS and TCAS are now standard fit whereas in the early days of the B747 they were not fitted at all and when GPWS was fitted it was much cruder device.
If we are going to make comparisons then let's please compare apples with apples.
Correct me if I am wrong but when the B747 was introduced to service there were no other airliners flying around which could carry 300 + passengers and this remained the case for many years.
The A380 has been flying for a much shorter and it remains to be seen how "safe" it is statistically speaking.
Another factor is that items such as EGPWS and TCAS are now standard fit whereas in the early days of the B747 they were not fitted at all and when GPWS was fitted it was much cruder device.
If we are going to make comparisons then let's please compare apples with apples.