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Old 28th Jan 2013, 17:13
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Transavia captain locked out of cockpit while F/O asleep

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Incident: Transavia B738 over Mediterranean on Sep 20th 2012, captain locked out of cockpit

A Transavia Boeing 737-800, registration PH-HZF performing flight HV-457 from Hurghada (Egypt) to Amsterdam (Netherlands), was enroute at FL360 on autopilot over the Mediterranean Sea near Crete about 2.5 hours into the flight, when the captain left the cockpit to take a toilet break. When he attempted to return to the cockpit, there was no response from the cockpit. The captain informed cabin crew, with the assistance of cabin crew the door was opened. Upon entering the cockpit the captain found the first officer asleep. The flight was continued to Amsterdam for a safe landing.
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I hope he apologised to the F/O for waking him up.
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I hope he apologised to the F/O for waking him up.
Or left him sleeping?
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 18:07
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......and went back for a quiet snooze in the cabin.
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Sneaky way to log P1 time.
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Definition of "just culture" from flightsafety.org:
According to Reason (1997), the components of a safety culture include: just, reporting, learning, informed and flexible cultures. Reason describes a Just Culture as an atmosphere of trust in which people are encouraged (even rewarded) for providing essential safety-related information, but in which they are also clear about where the line must be drawn between acceptable and unacceptable behaviour
Nice,
next time you report an error, a lapse, a stupid mistake, or whatever, you end up on The Aviation Herald, on Pprune and probably the desk of your Chiefpilot as well.

So much for "Just Culture"
Be warned!
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Wonder will Dutch Aviation Authority mount a huge investigation with TV producing programs about Dutchy airline staff asleep on duty.......... its ok I already know the answer.
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I guess crew can learn from this incident: make sure always two persons are in the cockpit. When captain or FO leaves cockpit, a flight attendant goes into cockpit. Read on avherald a story about both pilots leaving the cockpit at the same time and forgot the code to unlock cockpit door.
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Think the lesson from this is do NOT foget the door code. . . ( note to self )


Seems at least in this case the CC remembered . . bless

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Mind you, AMS-HRG-AMS in a slug...dreadful. What's that, two days?
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 19:25
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Last company I flew for required a member of cabin crew to sit on flight deck if you had to leave for a comfort break.
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Agreed. It's totally stupid to leave just one person on the flight deck side of a locked door. My last two companies both required a member of cabin crew there if either pilot had to take a comfort break.
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"Wonder will Dutch Aviation Authority mount a huge investigation with TV producing programs about Dutchy airline staff asleep on duty.......... its ok I already know the answer."

Hope they do.....over slaved airlines desire the same wrath. Good point racedo!
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Firefly - which company required c/c to 'sit on flightdeck' ? I want a job with them!
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500 above Firefly - which company required c/c to 'sit on flightdeck' ? I want a job with them!
Not sure about the "sit" part, most companies just require the FA to "be in" the flight deck.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 21:13
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Not sure about the "sit" part, most companies just require the FA to "be in" the flight deck.
That's what I meant! There are also security issues but don't want to relate those on a public forum.
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Bring back the Flight Engineer.
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Bring back the Flight Engineer.
Agree. If you come down in the desert you can eat him.

Royal Air Force training.

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Too much fat on the ones I have met..................now, a hostie.............
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...not much meat on them, bet they taste better though
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