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Details appearing on Italian news sites, FR4632 Valencia - Bergamo makes emergency landing in Genova
Genova, atterraggio di emergenza: due feriti - Notizie - MSN Italia

Blind Squirrel

From Il Salvatente:

Atterraggio d'emergenza per Ryanair, č il terzo in un anno


Emergency Landing by Ryanair, The Third in a Year

Scenes of Panic on Board, Two Persons Injured. Pressurisation Problems


Panic on board and a toll of two persons injured after an emergency landing took place at Christopher Columbus Airport in Genoa by a Ryanair flight operating directly from Valencia to Bergamo. Two women suffered injuries, one to the ear and the other to the chest, and were transported to the St Martin and Villa Scassi hospitals in Genoa. According to reports, the aeroplane experienced a depressurisation problem.

Moments of genuine panic were experienced by the 93 passengers on board the aircraft after the descent of the oxygen masks. Firefighters and ground staff of the Genoa Airport were on hand to render assistance. Air traffic at the Ligurian airports was closed off to allow the aircraft to land safely.

The passengers were transported to Bergamo by coach.

In the meantime a statement was made by the Irish company. "Flight FR 4632 (Valencia-Bergamo), on January 23, was diverted to Genoa when an indicator light showed a possible depressurisation problem in the cabin," it said. "In conformity with standard operating procedure the captain deployed oxygen masks and made a controlled emergency descent to a non-pressurisation altitude, before landing normally at Genoa at 09:50 approximately (local time). The passengers," the statement concluded, "were taken by coach to Milan to minimise delay; in the meantime Ryanair engineers are now inspecting the aircraft prior to putting it back in service."

This is not the first time that a mishap of this kind has occurred to the Irish company. In August 2011 a Palermo-Bologna flight had to land early at Rome Ciampino on account of an alleged engine problem. The company, on that occasion, denied that an emergency landing had occurred, but said that the aircraft had been diverted to Rome Ciampino "for precautionary reasons, following a small emission of smoke from a reading light." The flight then took off once again and arrived in Bologna ninety minutes late.

Last April, however, two flights from Milan to Brindisi and from Milan to the Canary Islands had to return after take-off because of technical problems. In neither case was an emergency landing involved, but the news nonetheless made the rounds of websites and newspapers.

Wizofoz

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So, in a company of around 300 Aircraft, an engine problem alwost two years ago is "This knid of mishap" along with a depress (that seems to have been handled to SOP)??

Do you HAVE to be a moron to be a Journo??

Daermon ATC

They are probably refering only to incidents in Italy. Spanish press has mentioned last year's similar incidents in flights between Madrid and Gran Canaria as well as another one between Valencia and Santiago de Compostela.

Un avión de Ryanair procedente de Valencia hace un aterrizaje de emergencia | Economía | EL PAÍS

Herod

Before we all get excited, it wasn't an "emergency" landing. Seems to me that following a depressurisation and descent, landing at the nearest suitable airfield is a good idea. I guess I would have made the same decision in the circumstances.

G-CELB

I had a push notification from the Flightradar24 app on my iPhone about this flight squawking 7700. At the point when I received the notification and started watching it was just south of Nice and already down to 10,000ft. It continued at FL100 up the coast before turning right across the water and then left to make its descent into Genova from the East of the airport. I wondered for a while if it was going to continue all the way to Milan at FL100 given that it hadn't landed at Nice which was clearly its nearest option after the problem had arisen.

Anyway, just awaiting the usual party to kick off on the Daily Mail now!

captplaystation

Genoa to Bergamo at FL100 is not a long way (particularly as you would normally be descended fairly early anyhow in Milano TMA) Strange they didn't just continue to destination & save everyone a lot of hassle.

With the obvious caveat, I wasn't there on the day.

fdr

NO, but it helps being able to dialog with HR at a common level... Apparently editorial rigor is in need of viagra. Get a grip, paper people you are not helping to raise awareness of the public by printing something that is better recycled as toilet paper.

Events happen, and nothing in this is other than an event to put back into the mix of risk management by the company... it is not a mishap by any measure of the term by any dictionary use or by Annex 13 definitions.


PS: interesting that the last medical stuff up didn't get aired on a public forum... if it did, there would be a collapse of the bandwidth available to the internet. Equally, don't see much evidence of the papers sensationalising the abject failures of the politicians on a daily basis, which are far more significant to society than one of MOL's rollerskates dropping nose bags. When did the papers start pinging GS, Blackrock, HSBC for activity that does more than raise eyebrows? How is it that the paper can illegally intercept transmissions and the only people that get nicked is the police? If FR or other programs bury people, perhaps that would be noteworthy, about as much as the next accident on the M25? People die hourly from the use of tobacco, alcohol, and cars, yet someone gets to transit a nearby airport and are inconvenienced by the fact they have to wear a nose bag. Big deal, the pax elect to pay peanuts, and the public's eyes well up when they are inconvenienced by a technical defect of a mechanical device.

DownIn3Green

Hey Jazz...Don't worry about it...Blind is the "same" poster that thinks a runway "EXcursion" is a big deal as well....looking for the ol'e "What do you guys think?" type post...


I don't know how it is in other A/C, but I've had the pleasure of flying "un-pressurised" in the 727 3 times in 23 years....Only once was it due to the "high dive"...

It gets unbelieveably hot in the cabin at 10,000'...so the fact that these guys dropped the masks manually and executed a "slow" descent probably stopped some panic, rather than doing a "high dive" and flying along with a 35 degree C cabin temp....

PENKO

Captainplaystation, they had injured passengers in the back, seems a sound decision to land at the nearest in stead of flying another twenty minutes or so at low altitude (fuel!) to Bergamo with panicking pax. They just can't get it right here on PPRuNe

Sober Lark

The headline writer has to accurately represent what is in the story. With this in mind it still has to be attention grabbing and normally the journalist who reports on the incident doesn't write the headline.

If I was scared of flying and was later interviewed a journalist could accurately say 'a terrified passenger'. If I was concerned about putting on an oxygen mask one could say there was 'panic'. Panic could simply be an alarming feeling many passengers experienced. The signs of panic actually displayed is left open to reader interpretation but in the strict sense reporting it is accurate.

Aldente

Ryanair do seem to be rather unlucky with these type of incidents. A quick search on AvHerald shows 7 cabin pressurisation problems for RYR compared to 2 for Easyjet and 2 for BA in a similar period.

PENKO

Different aircraft types, different number of aircraft...I don't know, you tell me.

paparomeodelta

FR log much more hours on their airframes, you have to put that in relation to the number of depressurisation incidents, "pressurisation-fatigue"...

fireflybob

Agree but also I imagine their aircraft also do more pressurisation cycles than many other operators also?

paparomeodelta

Agree, thatīs what I also meant, txs for clarifying

RAT 5

The pax injuries sound like rapid rise in pressure problems. Years ago an Air Europe B757 depressurised at FL350 and dived. If I remember correctly there were several pax with major ear problems. In my biz-jet days I had a pax, who at FL100, was screaming in ear pain. They had a cold. The only solution was to climb and then descend at a lower rate for the cabin. They were in terrible pain with only 500fpm ROD. Now imagine the effect of 4000fpm ROD. That's what happened on B757. Now imagine it happens to one of the crew. They will be incapacitated, severely. I've tried for years to argue that the ROD in an unpressurised descent needs to be reduced long before 10,000'. You go ski-ing at 12,000' no problem. An unpressurised a/c, e.g. PA-31, flies max 500fpm up & down for safety & comfort, but a jet at 11,000' can subject everyone to 4000fpm change. Why? Daft, unnecessary unless you are a lawyer. When real life mechanical failures occur the industry learns form them and redesigns the bit that broke. After unpressurised descents and ear problems occur why is the procedure not redesigned to alleviate, safely, the potential critical safety problem? Pax O2 comes on at 14,000'; that would be a good place to consider changing the SOP. The rate of increase in pressure/2000' of descent is massive below 20,000 compared to the higher levels. Everyone is on O2 so 2000fpm ROD at FL180 and then 1000fpm ROD at FL140 will not kill anyone, but it sure will alleviate burst ear drums. So why don't we do it? What is the medical physiological reason not to do so? It is really so black & white about 10,000'?

cockney steve

[quoteDifferent aircraft types, different number of aircraft...I don't know, you tell me.][/quote]
Nothing to do with RYR, per se.- the aircraft were, I think, sold to them by Messrs. BOEING.

Maybe, if I were Mr. Boeing and a customer screwed me down on price, I might be tempted to slip in a few "seconds" /"Regraded" Ex-demonstrators or the like, in the large,but not very profitable order.

But , of course, this didn't happen. RYR has a well-maintained ,shiny modern fleet...they're worked hard and some failures are inevitable ,especially in what is essentially a series-built,hand-assembled product.

stupid press, little integrity, slow news day and they desperately wanted to give their "readers" a change from the financial doom 'n gloom.

Sunnyjohn

(my italics) There are all sorts of reasons why passengers may have been injured but does anyone know if the plane did depressurise?

syseng68k

fdr:

Brilliant. Off the cuff, direct and to the point, especially the bit about HR