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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 15:31
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Originally Posted by eastern wiseguy
Not too impossible to be a commander at 31 methinks
I have been told of a captain in a certain low cost irish outfit ,who,five years ago had never even FLOWN an aeroplane.

That surprised me. I believe the source.
Indeed. Said Captain went to FTE and got promoted a day before the fifth anniversary of his first ever flight...
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 19:17
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Are you kidding me , mate!??
Is that a joke or are you serious?!We never let CA take control of aircraft nor even seat in pilot seats (only exception as many Operator's SOP, when some flight crew leave the cockpit to go to the toilet)!!
Not even take communication!
I think what AE had in mind is are deadheading crew ever asked/allowed to take seat in row 0 or take control of the aircraft ;-)
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 20:17
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I hope you're joking....
Sadly not ..

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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 20:34
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Originally Posted by JQKA
Are you kidding me , mate!??
Is that a joke or are you serious?!We never let CA take control of aircraft nor even seat in pilot seats (only exception as many Operator's SOP, when some flight crew leave the cockpit to go to the toilet)!!
Not even take communication!
Well I have.
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 20:41
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GOOD FOR YOU ALL

Proud to be a pilot and to fly safe and to have some operatores or better to say..Pilots..that allow this !
Don't be surprised then when we hear aircraft crashed without any explanation..this could be one!
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 21:49
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"Andrea Sirlo"

sounds more like a footballer wannabe, rather than an aviator..
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 00:34
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At leat he was just use the airplanes just for a "lift"
I do believe there are so many faked pilot around the word piloting! with and without licence!
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 02:17
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L'habit ne fait pas le moine.

Too bad this proverb doesn't exist in english, it would be something like: "the clothing doesn't make the monk".
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 02:36
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JQKA and DOVES

Lighten up, I think Roy of the Hudd was being humorous! Italian pilots certainly do have style.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 03:25
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Hmmmm.

Before 911 I could put anyone I wanted in my Jumpseat...even my wife...terror of terrors!

Last summer I flew for a Belgian Airline and I was pleasantly pleased to learn that I could put my wife in a jump seat again.... (New wife... :-)) In fact, I could put just about anyone in my jump seat of I so desired.

Was a real treat.

:-)

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 05:20
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Remember a certain 'shed' skipper who used to take his pet terrier on night mail flights..

now thats what i call real class ...please forget all this italian 'stylish' BS
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What is he actually charged with?

I am not sure impersonating a member of airline personnel is, in itself, any kind of crime.
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I am not sure impersonating a member of airline personnel is, in itself, any kind of crime.
It is, if you obtain an economical advantage from it such as free passage, which happened allegedly at least once in this case. Not to mention the security aspects if you manage to get into a restricted area, such as the apron or even worse the flight deck, under such false pretenses.

Edited to add: in Italy it's illegal per se even without monetary gain, that is only if it's a legally licensed and regulated profession such as doctor, lawyer or, as in this case, airline transport pilot.

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 09:13
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I suspect this thread will soon slip into another penis size contest..

Anyway after having flown in 3 different continents and with people from all over the globe, I can only say that there lots of very good pilots everywhere including Italy but that the opposite is true as well...

Do we have a style?

Definitely, that's one thing I can say, we wear our uniform with pride, maybe because we don't forget easily how hard it was to wear the first one for some of us...

Is that a crime?

That's one thing I still don't get..
For some of you it's not just acceptable but almost cool to wear a scrappy uniform, for me that's unprofessional, but I guess I am the minority..

Ciao Speevy
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 09:17
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Is this P2F stretching to the jumpseat to boost revenue?!?!?!

I'll get my coat....

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 10:48
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In the 80s I knew a tp (civilian) who had his Labrador, named "Biggles", flying in the RHS of a C130. Of course there was an FE as well so it was quite safe! This is true!
I understand that the dog was also qualified on the Devon/Dove.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 11:04
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http://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?d...9650&noquote=1

The picture of the FA in the LH seat-no "sad but true," and no "control."

Captain leaves the seat for the loo, comes back and she starts to get up. He says, no stay there a bit, I will stretch my legs and stand a bit. Takes out his phone and takes a picture.

She can happily show the picture and they have a little light time. No danger, no implications, in cruise, in good weather and for all we know, the FO is in fact also captain rated.

If something did happen, she would be out of the seat in no time and there would be no difference from him going off to the loo and no one sitting in the seat.

Happens all the time stiff-necks..........
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 11:16
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Is it still school holidays? My kids went back weeks ago....

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 11:24
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I know it happen a lot and will be in this way for ever...
but what I believe, that is not a Standard Procedure and not very Safely.
Weather is good, 3 CPT in cockpit and all you want...technical malfunction or failures, did not advise you..and could happen even in the best ever day of the year...
And.....she/he will be put of the seat in No Time
I don't believe so..what do you think could happen if they experience a fast decompression or worst case scenario an explosive decompression..
believe me is better to stay every one at his own seat! and to have time to do just they should have to do by hearth instead of loosing time to remove somepne and get his seats...In aircraft there is no time in case of emergencies!
Time is the main factor who decides life and death

I used to fly "relaxed" but believe me every time I stay alone in Fligh Deck I always review by my mind some emergencies could happen to me at that time just to be prepared to handle all alone..have no time to wait the CPT....unless in paradise

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 11:45
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Aeroflot flight 593 accident March 23 1994:

The aircraft was operating an international scheduled Moscow–Hong Kong passenger service as Flight 593, when it crashed en route near Mezhdurechensk, after the auto-pilot partially shut off when the captain's 16-year-old son was allowed to sit in the pilot seat and handle the controls.
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