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Old 14th Sep 2012, 14:00
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The truckies I've flown with have all been top guys.

Never had a problem with fast jet guys ability to pole, it's been the CRM that's been lacking, with one or two exceptions of course. Especially in the early days of joining.

A colleague of mine was in a recurrent sim with an ex fast jet guy. My mate was a capt and had been for 5 years or so at the time. It was fast jet guy's first recurrent after joining us. His closing gambit was "I can't believe I've been out flown by a civilian". Many anecdotes abound of such ilk. Speaks to the point scoring competitive attitude that is not welcome on a civilian flight deck.

No chips. I never applied for the RAF. I would never have prospered in such an environment even though I am sure the flying must be fantastic. I do love quizzing ex RAF fos about their experiences. I find them fascinating.

Yes. I agree. Need to change my profile, seemed appropriate 10 years ago when I wrote it.
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Old 15th Sep 2012, 21:58
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Truckies are OK , just don't leave them with nothing but the Jaffa cakes....
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Old 16th Sep 2012, 22:35
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Never had a problem with fast jet guys ability to pole, it's been the CRM that's been lacking
I do so love sweeping generalisations.

fmgc, just curious, do you ask a guy his background when you first meet, so you can make pre-judgements about him?
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 12:53
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fmgc, just curious, do you ask a guy his background when you first meet, so you can make pre-judgements about him?
Don't tend to need to!
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 13:05
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Oh dear..denigrating into a civvy vs mil stoush.....30% of the ex RAF/RN FJ guys I've flown with are top draw....the rest need drowning
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 16:06
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....and that has really moved the debate to higher level.
Ironic. NOT
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 16:10
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Mee Owwww!!

I'm in for the evening on this one..Got my popcorn and coke...Don't want to get tipsy and miss anything...
Rooles of fare plaiy!
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 19:27
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Originally Posted by falconeasydriver
30% of the ex RAF/RN FJ guys I've flown with are top draw....the rest need drowning
30%? That's generous!

Most of them whitter on about upper leg length etc; but they're all short-arses themselves

I flew with a few F/Os who were ex RAF, good chaps in the main, a couple couldn't gel with civvy ops though The ones who could were splendid operators

I personally still prefer civvy, self-sponsered peeps

Yours sincerely
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 19:45
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got DFC's/DFM's/QC's and CAA test pilots in my fam - all ex-BEA/BA - all sound as a pound
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