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Plane sits at the moment on the runway waiting for thorough inspection (I hope they are gentile).
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Does this happen often with Vueling?
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Flughafen Schiphol: Funkpanne löst Kampfjetalarm über Amsterdam aus - Panorama | STERN.DE has the story but isn't really including anything new.
Here's my quick translation:
The hostage situation onboard an aircraft in Amsterdam was a false alarm. Passengers on the Spanish Airbus told Dutch radio NOS that there were no problems on board. "We are surprised at what is going on here," said one woman.
The Vueling Airbus departed from Málaga with 193 passengers and was intercepted by two F-16 fighter jets of the Dutch military and, according to the Military police, surounded by security forces. The passengers were initially left on board the aircraft. The National Coordination Centre for Combating Terrorism explained that there was no radio contact with the pilots and it was not possible to dismiss the possibility of a hostage situation.
The Spanish airline denied that there was a hostage situation onboard their aircraft. A representative said that according to Madrid online news "elmundo.es" and "elpais.com" on Wednesday, there were no issues on board the aircraft, which landed at Amsterdam. She stated that it was a misunderstanding in the communications between the pilots and the control tower. The aircraft approached the airport using an atypical route.
Here's my quick translation:
The hostage situation onboard an aircraft in Amsterdam was a false alarm. Passengers on the Spanish Airbus told Dutch radio NOS that there were no problems on board. "We are surprised at what is going on here," said one woman.
The Vueling Airbus departed from Málaga with 193 passengers and was intercepted by two F-16 fighter jets of the Dutch military and, according to the Military police, surounded by security forces. The passengers were initially left on board the aircraft. The National Coordination Centre for Combating Terrorism explained that there was no radio contact with the pilots and it was not possible to dismiss the possibility of a hostage situation.
The Spanish airline denied that there was a hostage situation onboard their aircraft. A representative said that according to Madrid online news "elmundo.es" and "elpais.com" on Wednesday, there were no issues on board the aircraft, which landed at Amsterdam. She stated that it was a misunderstanding in the communications between the pilots and the control tower. The aircraft approached the airport using an atypical route.
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Yet, strangely enough, they are one of the only Spanish companies I know that speak English on the r/t in Spain (presumably SOPS because of their multinational crews - including some Brits).
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Tonight on the news it was mentioned that authorities suspected a hijack because Arabic music was heard in the background by ATC while communicating with the Vueling aircraft.
Police is doing an investigation on this.
Sounds strange. Could the music come from an illegal radio broadcast on the FM freq. used by ATC?
Police is doing an investigation on this.
Sounds strange. Could the music come from an illegal radio broadcast on the FM freq. used by ATC?
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sounds like a set up on the link. "737 type aircraft" from a "cheap charter type airline" 
. I can't believe intercept pilots wouldn't know every detail about the aircraft they (if they are carrying hot weapons) are about to destroy.
In 1940, every school boy could tell all aircraft types...
Think most "professional pilots" could differentiate most fighters. This must be the most unprofessional thing I've ever heard
. I can't believe intercept pilots wouldn't know every detail about the aircraft they (if they are carrying hot weapons) are about to destroy. In 1940, every school boy could tell all aircraft types...
Think most "professional pilots" could differentiate most fighters. This must be the most unprofessional thing I've ever heard
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As a 1940 schoolboy I can confirm F14's comment above. We short -trousered lads would indeed have been able to tell the difference between -say - a Dornier and Spitfire .
In fact it was a Spitfire which caused the most damage to our little town by crashing into the house next to our school. The pilot baled out safely and was promptly picked up by the local baker in his bread-van and arrested because he had a "funny accent"......( He was Canadian).
As for the Dorniers - well they continue to ply the sky above our town, and still seem to have out-of-sync props. They now call them 228s apparently but they've yet to do us any harm.
I don't agree with F14 . I don't think the intercept pilot's radio description of the Vueling airliner was actually too wide-of-the-mark (in fact a nice plug for Vueling's low-cost air fares) and, fair-play, he didn't shoot.
...But this incident could be the start of a new trend - "DIY Airline Hi-jacking". It'll keeps us all on our toes without actually troubling those Al-Qaeda guys or requiring them to have to stump-up for air tickets - cheap though Vueling's may be.
...Oh and by the way - I may have got my birthday slightly wrong in my Pprune membership
- just in case you wondered.
In fact it was a Spitfire which caused the most damage to our little town by crashing into the house next to our school. The pilot baled out safely and was promptly picked up by the local baker in his bread-van and arrested because he had a "funny accent"......( He was Canadian).
As for the Dorniers - well they continue to ply the sky above our town, and still seem to have out-of-sync props. They now call them 228s apparently but they've yet to do us any harm.
I don't agree with F14 . I don't think the intercept pilot's radio description of the Vueling airliner was actually too wide-of-the-mark (in fact a nice plug for Vueling's low-cost air fares) and, fair-play, he didn't shoot.
...But this incident could be the start of a new trend - "DIY Airline Hi-jacking". It'll keeps us all on our toes without actually troubling those Al-Qaeda guys or requiring them to have to stump-up for air tickets - cheap though Vueling's may be.
...Oh and by the way - I may have got my birthday slightly wrong in my Pprune membership
- just in case you wondered.
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Video of Vueling suspected hijack bound to AMS
For a reason unknown to me the original thread on the long thought to be a hijack of the Vueling A320 flying Malaga-Amsterdam has been deleted. Thanks administrator for just deleting it without any reason or communication.
The reason for posting it was that lessons could be learned from this incident.
I found the posting in the Google cache
As we know on Wednesday August 29 Vueling flight VY8386 flying Malaga-Amsterdam was intercepted by 2 Dutch F16's while on its way to Amsterdam. Reason was a strong indication the flight was hijacked.
The indications are based on:
-aircraft entered Dutch airspace with no ATC contact
-after a while the radio contact was established
-when the pilot noticed two F16's he asked ATC : 'are we being hijacked?'
-The aircraft made a right turn while ATC requested a left turn. According the press this behaviour is an indication the flight is hijacked.
-ATC heard Arab music in the background
However the pilot never used a squak code to indicate hijack or radio failure.
After landing at Schiphol the aircraft was parked at a remote apron. The passengers were not aware there was a possible hijack. They read it on their mobile phones there was an issue.
Crew were investigated by the Dutch police. On Friday the investigation was finished.
No news yet on why the miscommunication happened.
I also read the aircraft flew a different course because the pilot was instructed to so do by the F16 pilots.
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Anyway, today a video was published made by one of the passengers. It shows the F16 flying next to the aircraft and what happened after landing.
The reason for posting it was that lessons could be learned from this incident.
I found the posting in the Google cache
As we know on Wednesday August 29 Vueling flight VY8386 flying Malaga-Amsterdam was intercepted by 2 Dutch F16's while on its way to Amsterdam. Reason was a strong indication the flight was hijacked.
The indications are based on:
-aircraft entered Dutch airspace with no ATC contact
-after a while the radio contact was established
-when the pilot noticed two F16's he asked ATC : 'are we being hijacked?'
-The aircraft made a right turn while ATC requested a left turn. According the press this behaviour is an indication the flight is hijacked.
-ATC heard Arab music in the background
However the pilot never used a squak code to indicate hijack or radio failure.
After landing at Schiphol the aircraft was parked at a remote apron. The passengers were not aware there was a possible hijack. They read it on their mobile phones there was an issue.
Crew were investigated by the Dutch police. On Friday the investigation was finished.
No news yet on why the miscommunication happened.
I also read the aircraft flew a different course because the pilot was instructed to so do by the F16 pilots.
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Anyway, today a video was published made by one of the passengers. It shows the F16 flying next to the aircraft and what happened after landing.
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A sight I hope never to experience myself... 
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No, I posted about this incident here but post was removed.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...intercept.html
I like to keep you all updated about the investigation performed by the authorities.
It is weird ATC heared Arab music supposed to be broadcasted from the aircraft. It is also weird the aircraft made a left turn while ATC requested a right turn.
Lets hope this sort of incident will not happen again and that lessons are learned. One of the major goals of this board I guess
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...intercept.html
I like to keep you all updated about the investigation performed by the authorities.
It is weird ATC heared Arab music supposed to be broadcasted from the aircraft. It is also weird the aircraft made a left turn while ATC requested a right turn.
Lets hope this sort of incident will not happen again and that lessons are learned. One of the major goals of this board I guess
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Knife in another vueling flight
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WRT "knife on board"
Is it just me or is terminating a flight and incurring a 2.5 hour delay because a knife belonging to an obviously harmless passenger falls out of a backpack slightly over the top?
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A first reconstruction of the event showed that the knife was difficult to detect due to the type of backpack despite all various filters available on the monitoring equipment.
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For a reason unknown to me the original thread on the long thought to be a hijack of the Vueling A320 flying Malaga-Amsterdam has been deleted. Thanks administrator for just deleting it without any reason or communication.
Perhaps you were just too lazy to look? Even though the original thread had been pointed out to you by another poster.