Sky Airlines Chile 737 near miss on landing
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Sky Airlines Chile 737 near miss on landing
Not sure if this has been posted before, Sky 737 nearly crashed on landing in Chile
Choque de ala derecha con la pista de aterrizaje vuelo sky 101 en la serena el 18 de julio de 2012 - YouTube
News in Spanish with pictures of damaged wing after go around
Choque de ala derecha con la pista de aterrizaje vuelo sky 101 en la serena el 18 de julio de 2012 - YouTube
News in Spanish with pictures of damaged wing after go around
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I no speaka da Spanish, but contrary to the 'simulation' it looks as if they landed across the runway rather than along it!
The simulation definitely is way off, from the passenger video it's quite clear that they touched down way off to the left, possibly so far off that they might not have had all wheels on the tarmac.
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The short graphic simulation was probably done by the TV company and they needed to err on the safe side, despite the video evidence. I doubt the carrier could have been together enough to try and get that together so fast.
As I have said before, every carrier's CEO and every Captain MUST assume that at least one video recorder is running at ALL times. It is the pax video that will carry public opinion and will be used alongside the data recorders to apportion blame. Pax will continue to ignore instructions not to use video/camcorders/phones, it is a simple fact of life.
If the carrier had any sense - the moment they saw that video - they would have started negotiating as it's Game Over. They won't.
As I have said before, every carrier's CEO and every Captain MUST assume that at least one video recorder is running at ALL times. It is the pax video that will carry public opinion and will be used alongside the data recorders to apportion blame. Pax will continue to ignore instructions not to use video/camcorders/phones, it is a simple fact of life.
If the carrier had any sense - the moment they saw that video - they would have started negotiating as it's Game Over. They won't.
The full video (via link) in the first post says it all. Circle-to-land with final heading into the fringes of a marine layer and the setting sun. Note how fast the weather turns to solid OVC during the climb-out.
SCSE (like most of Chile) has mountains to the east, which may explain why the pilot turned in fairly tightly. Also high terrain to the south, which explains a right-hand turn, putting the CA on the high side with the worst visual references.
No ILS. VOR approaches only for the reciprocal runway (due to the high terrain to the east). A slightly "tabletop" airport, so the RA callouts will be skewed and rapid in the last mile. Nearby terrain. A certain amount of pucker-factor for a 737, even without the sun and clouds.
SCSE (like most of Chile) has mountains to the east, which may explain why the pilot turned in fairly tightly. Also high terrain to the south, which explains a right-hand turn, putting the CA on the high side with the worst visual references.
No ILS. VOR approaches only for the reciprocal runway (due to the high terrain to the east). A slightly "tabletop" airport, so the RA callouts will be skewed and rapid in the last mile. Nearby terrain. A certain amount of pucker-factor for a 737, even without the sun and clouds.
Well, that's one way to add winglets to an older 737. 
Actually, I revise my previous analysis slightly. Not a circle-to-land, but a long "final" down a side valley, with a 60° turn for alignment 1/2 mile off the end of the runway.
Kinda like the LDA approach into KDCA 19 - except with low sun, fog, mountains - and no radio guidance.
http://www.altairva-fs.com/training/.../DCA_LDA19.gif
Actually, I revise my previous analysis slightly. Not a circle-to-land, but a long "final" down a side valley, with a 60° turn for alignment 1/2 mile off the end of the runway.
Kinda like the LDA approach into KDCA 19 - except with low sun, fog, mountains - and no radio guidance.
http://www.altairva-fs.com/training/.../DCA_LDA19.gif
Any chance it was caused by control servo interference by the passenger disregarding the safety briefing by having an electronic device (hence the video, perhaps in a phone) switched on during the landing ?
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If it was interference it will the first time - about as likely in real life as a mobile phone causing an explosion in a petrol station...
Am I missing something - why would passengers get compensation? Surely Alton Towers could charge for excitement like that - but no harm done (to the Px).
Am I missing something - why would passengers get compensation? Surely Alton Towers could charge for excitement like that - but no harm done (to the Px).
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No bad weather, no windshear, a kind of visual approach with long final and a B737-200 that can be flown like a small cessna!
It sounds very strange, where is the error? Too much confidence with the aircraft or lack of skills???
Strangely they diverted to another airport far away without trying to land again in La Serena, why? There is something missing...
It sounds very strange, where is the error? Too much confidence with the aircraft or lack of skills???
Strangely they diverted to another airport far away without trying to land again in La Serena, why? There is something missing...
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Strangely they diverted to another airport far away without trying to land again in La Serena, why? There is something missing...
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Strangely they diverted to another airport far away without trying to land again in La Serena, why? There is something missing...
with final heading into the fringes of a marine layer and the setting sun
No ILS. VOR approaches only for the reciprocal runway
another case of pilots behind the wheel with marginal hand-flying skills
with ... a B737-200 that can be flown like a small cessna!
Strangely they diverted to another airport far away without trying to land again in La Serena, why?
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Originally Posted by stepwilk
FYI, pilots call it a runway
English pilots will call it TARMAC
And the French call it the PISTE B T W
Last edited by White Knight; 27th Jul 2012 at 19:53.